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Bought this on ebay. Intuition liner toe area has small vertical slices? WAH?

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 

Bought some old full tilts on ebay. Supposedly unused. Everything looked good until i removed the liner and saw 2 vertical slices near the big toe area (see picture below). The slices are cut all the way through. I thought this was a defect at first. After calling up some ski shops, they said some people do this to allow the toe area to expand wider after molding. And you could even just put duct tape over it if you don't want it. 

Still seems kinda suspect. Wanted to see if anyone has tried this or have seen others try this before? I'm mainly worried that the toe would just keep splitting fur
ther and further.

 

post #2 of 13

Heh.   That looks like it was done -after- moulding.   With a kitchen knife.   In a condo kitchen.

Yes, I've seen people hack up their liners like ^that before, but that doesn't really help you.

Oh, and the overlap on the left liner is reversed :)

post #3 of 13
I'd be more worried about the unused part.
post #4 of 13

Bizarre. Sew it right back up with some heavy thread and forget all about it. 

post #5 of 13

Given that the slits are where the big toe contacts the front of the boot, I'm guessing the original owner wanted some more space at that specific point. Do you know if the liners were ever moulded? When moulded, the  process usually puts a rubber cup in the toe area so that space is available to wiggle the toes. As stated above, if the fit you ok, then stitch them up and go ski. I would not remould them with the slit unrepaired.

post #6 of 13
I'd return them if you can. Not a great idea to buy boots on eBay.
post #7 of 13

The cut on the right liner (left in the picture) goes through the stitching, which can now unravel. Send 'em back.

post #8 of 13
Thread Starter 

The overlap is actually fine. I think i did that accidentally when removing the liner from my foot.

 

I think i'm just gonna give it a shot. I've gotten feedback from elsewhere that this might be okay.

 

The liner doesn't feel molded. The toe area is very tight. The rest of the boot seems to be in really good condition. 

 
I'll probably tape it for the mold to hold it together and then glue/stitch the gap after the mold. 
 
I heard aquaseal might be good for sealing up something like this.
 
Anyone tried aquaseal?
post #9 of 13

i've used seamgrip (seam seal?)by same company to repair cuts and holes on the bottom of my ski pants, as well as a delaminated zipper.  

 

Not sure of the difference between the products.

 

It worked well from a functional standpoint, although the appearance of course is different as it's now has a wet shiny look where it's applied.

 

You can pick it up at REI (might have to find the gear repair display section)

post #10 of 13

I can't remember exactly what Aquaseal is. A silicone? Or a contact adhesive? I used it and remember it was a quality product for my wet application waterskis. But I use a lot of adhesives.

 

If you want a contact adhesive, wetsuit glue works very well also. 

 

I'd prefer a silicone sealant rather than an adhesive if I'm not getting it a new heat molding. I've repaired much worse with silicone seal on my Intuition liners in my waterski boots. 

 

Duct tape is a staple for liner management.

 

My really ratty torn up liners were my waterski favorites for a long time. If you like the boots, enjoy them - torn liners and all.

 

Eric

post #11 of 13
Thread Starter 

Looked at videos of seam grip. They show it mostly used on fabrics though.

 

Quote:

Originally Posted by eleeski View Post
 

If you want a contact adhesive, wetsuit glue works very well also. 

 

I'd prefer a silicone sealant rather than an adhesive if I'm not getting it a new heat molding. I've repaired much worse with silicone seal on my Intuition liners in my waterski boots. 

 

Aquaseal is a "high density silicone oil" according to their site.

 

Chances are I might reheat the intuitions in the future.

 

So contact adhesive then i guess.

post #12 of 13
If I were in your position id try some stitching as the main method of closing the cuts then seal it with whatever product you choose. The liners have stitching already so I don't see why not add a little more thread
post #13 of 13

I bet the other seams are glued AND stitched. Wetsuit glue and a few stitches might make it new.

 

When molded, the foam gets really soft and pliable. It stretches a lot. Let us know how you fix it and how the molding goes.

 

Eric

 

PS Maybe I used the Aquaseal on my drysuit cuffs as a lube. I remember being happy with the product but I don't have it around anymore - so not that happy? Probably just not at Home Depot anymore.

 

I used regular GE silicone seal to rebuild the torn up liner.

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