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post #1 of 24
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I am 15 5'11" and 150 pounds. I am looking for a good Park ski where I could ski switch and still ski the rest of the mountain with my family. I would consider my self aggressive and prefer to go fast. So basically I want a good ski that will preform great on the park, and on the mountain. I have looked at the Volkl walls, Volkl Bridge, Head Caddy, Armada El Rey, and the atomic punx and a can't really narrow down on a ski. Any insight would be greatly appreciated and if anyone has a different ski I should look at feel free to tell me I'm open to all ideas.

Thanks

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post #2 of 24
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I am new to buying skis and need professional advice. I am going to purchase some skis I want a ski that will preform great in the park riding switch and preforms equally well on the rest of the mountain. Can I use Park skis for all mountain? I
post #3 of 24
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Can I use Park skis for all mountain? 

 

Yes.

post #4 of 24
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Yes.
Thanks for the reply do you have any suggestions for skis that will best for this or any brand suggestions
post #5 of 24

It would be helpful to know more about you: age, height, weight, level of expertise, where you ski?

post #6 of 24
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It would be helpful to know more about you: age, height, weight, level of expertise, where you ski?

Yes I am 15 5'11" and 150 lbs. My expertise I would say is not yet intermediate to advanced but it is higher intermediate I can ski blues comfortably and love to go fast. I am a very aggressive skier am not afraid to crash or screw up.

I have looked at the Volkl walls, Armada El Rey, Head Caddy, atomic punx. I need help finding one that suits my needs.

I ski mostly in the east.

Thanks
post #7 of 24

Of the skis you listed, I demo'd the Walls, and have tried my nephew's Kinks. I like them both. As is usual with Volkl, they both hold a good edge on firm snow. I don't do switch much, but both are in Volkl's line that appeals to park skiers. May be a little stiff, so therefore demanding, for an intermediate, but if you are advancing quickly, I think either would be fine for you. My nephew bought the Kinks two years ago while a solid intermediate and they have served him very well as his skills have improved. He's 21 and very athletic, so probably much like you. Is the binding mount point on the Walls dead center? I know one in the Volkl park line is. While that makes it easler to ski switch, the location may not serve so well on the rest of the mountain. You pays your money and you takes your choice.

post #8 of 24
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Originally Posted by cosmoliu View Post

Of the skis you listed, I demo'd the Walls, and have tried my nephew's Kinks. I like them both. As is usual with Volkl, they both hold a good edge on firm snow. I don't do switch much, but both are in Volkl's line that appeals to park skiers. May be a little stiff, so therefore demanding, for an intermediate, but if you are advancing quickly, I think either would be fine for you. My nephew bought the Kinks two years ago while a solid intermediate and they have served him very well as his skills have improved. He's 21 and very athletic, so probably much like you. Is the binding mount point on the Walls dead center? I know one in the Volkl park line is. While that makes it easler to ski switch, the location may not serve so well on the rest of the mountain. You pays your money and you takes your choice.

Thanks for the input and quick responses. I do not know if the walls are center mounted but I suppose they are because they are symmetrical twin tip. Just my thought. Did u feel the walls were to heavy? And do you think I would be happy going fast with walls outside of the park like on blues or should I get an all mountain ski that could work for Park?

Thanks
post #9 of 24

Yes, I think that when they say "symmetrical twin tip" that puts the binding point equidistant between tip and tail. That wouldn't be my preference, but if you spend almost all of your time in the park, you might like that. I don't remember them being heavy, but that isn't something I worry much about. They should be fine for going fast on groomers, though they might be a bit more twitchy than a more conventional all mountain ski. I am far from any kind of expert on park oriented skis, though. 

post #10 of 24
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I have found that the volkl ledge or volkl bridge would be better for me. The bridges are and all mountain partial twin and the volkl ledge are a full twin and has a little more flex
post #11 of 24
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Yes, I think that when they say "symmetrical twin tip" that puts the binding point equidistant between tip and tail. That wouldn't be my preference, but if you spend almost all of your time in the park, you might like that. I don't remember them being heavy, but that isn't something I worry much about. They should be fine for going fast on groomers, though they might be a bit more twitchy than a more conventional all mountain ski. I am far from any kind of expert on park oriented skis, though. 

Yes thank you. What type of ski do u use? All mountain, powder etc.
post #12 of 24

My profile has everything I currently ski on. My all time favorite skis are my Volkl Gotamas. The Head Rock n Rolls are a close second, pretty much tied with the Bonafides. I am blessed with the disposable income to have a quiver, and when I drive up to Mammoth will take up to 3 pairs with me. This weekend, I am taking three pairs of rock skis :(

 

I actually put up my first post to get your basic stats into the thread. I have nowhere near the overall knowledge of skis that many others here do.

 

edit: Can't forget the Blizzard Supersonics. Wow, what a fun ski!

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My profile has everything I currently ski on. My all time favorite skis are my Volkl Gotamas. The Head Rock n Rolls are a close second, pretty much tied with the Bonafides. I am blessed with the disposable income to have a quiver, and when I drive up to Mammoth will take up to 3 pairs with me. This weekend, I am taking three pairs of rock skis :(

 

I actually put up my first post to get your basic stats into the thread. I have nowhere near the overall knowledge of skis that many others here do.

 

edit: Can't forget the Blizzard Supersonics. Wow, what a fun ski!


Bummer on the rock skis, cos.  We're on the sharpest things we can find here (pax Atomicman).

 

My son had his Kinks mounted between park and all mountain, and he's happy.  If you center mount, you give up all mountain performance.  If you mount all mountain, you give up some park.  Splitting the difference might work for you -- it's kind of a crap shoot (by which I mean dice, or gambling).  If you can demo a parkish ski, you may be able to play with the mount position (but be careful!)

post #14 of 24
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Bummer on the rock skis, cos.  We're on the sharpest things we can find here (pax Atomicman).

My son had his Kinks mounted between park and all mountain, and he's happy.  If you center mount, you give up all mountain performance.  If you mount all mountain, you give up some park.  Splitting the difference might work for you -- it's kind of a crap shoot (by which I mean dice, or gambling).  If you can demo a parkish ski, you may be able to play with the mount position (but be careful!)

What if I took a all mountain twin and position the bindings more toward center.
post #15 of 24
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Bummer on the rock skis, cos.  We're on the sharpest things we can find here (pax Atomicman).

My son had his Kinks mounted between park and all mountain, and he's happy.  If you center mount, you give up all mountain performance.  If you mount all mountain, you give up some park.  Splitting the difference might work for you -- it's kind of a crap shoot (by which I mean dice, or gambling).  If you can demo a parkish ski, you may be able to play with the mount position (but be careful!)

how does your son like his kinks do they have a partial twin tip and would it be possible to ride switch?
post #16 of 24
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how does your son like his kinks do they have a partial twin tip and would it be possible to ride switch?


They're twins; he loves them.  The Kink is marketed as a park/all mountain (or an all mountain/park).  Not sure if it's continuing beyond this year, though.  We got a great deal on last year's version (unchanged this season) here:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/VOLKL-KINK-SKIS-NEW-113352-/191202347907?pt=Skiing&var=&hash=item2c848c4b83  (Ships out of Vermont.)

post #17 of 24
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They're twins; he loves them.  The Kink is marketed as a park/all mountain (or an all mountain/park).  Not sure if it's continuing beyond this year, though.  We got a great deal on last year's version (unchanged this season) here:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/VOLKL-KINK-SKIS-NEW-113352-/191202347907?pt=Skiing&var=&hash=item2c848c4b83  (Ships out of Vermont.)

So ur telling me that last year's version is exactly I mean exactly the same as 2015 there is no change what so ever besides graphics and the year 2014!so your getting the same thing for cheaper.

And thanks for the link
post #18 of 24
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So ur telling me that last year's version is exactly I mean exactly the same as 2015 there is no change what so ever besides graphics and the year 2014!so your getting the same thing for cheaper.

And thanks for the link


It happens a lot.  Of the 33 models in the Volkl brand, for instance, only 8 are new (4 of them race skis); 20 have new graphics only (the Kink among them), and the remainder are entirely unchanged.  So, yes -- shape and construction are entirely the same; the top sheet changed. 

post #19 of 24
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It happens a lot.  Of the 33 models in the Volkl brand, for instance, only 8 are new (4 of them race skis); 20 have new graphics only (the Kink among them), and the remainder are entirely unchanged.  So, yes -- shape and construction are entirely the same; the top sheet changed. 

 

Just to point out what I'm sure you know  -- the skis in the link I posted do not come with bindings.  You'd have to buy those separately and have them mounted. 

post #20 of 24
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It happens a lot.  Of the 33 models in the Volkl brand, for instance, only 8 are new (4 of them race skis); 20 have new graphics only (the Kink among them), and the remainder are entirely unchanged.  So, yes -- shape and construction are entirely the same; the top sheet changed. 

Wow that just like buying the label of a year newer and graphics for like 200 dollars more that sort of bull but whatever. Thanks for pointing that out. And heard that the volkl kink 2014 graphic chips alot. Is that true?
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Wow that just like buying the label of a year newer and graphics for like 200 dollars more that sort of bull but whatever. Thanks for pointing that out. And heard that the volkl kink 2014 graphic chips alot. Is that true?


Can't tell yet.  So far he hasn't had much damage, but he hasn't been in the park much.  Park beats skis up, I've noticed.

post #22 of 24

there are a ton of reviews here:  blistergearreview.com   . I don't really know that much about park skis, but I would definitely start looking at some of the more affordable skis to start with, and also see if there are any demo days left so you can try as many skis as possible. good luck.

post #23 of 24
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What if I took a all mountain twin and position the bindings more toward center.

Check out the Nordica Soul Rider. Ski them at plus 1-2 forward of the classic mount position... IMHO, there isn't a better all mountain twin tip out there.
post #24 of 24

i do not ski park, but have owned the volkl bridge on two separate occasions.  I enjoy them all-mountain.  i am 5'10 185# and rode the 179.  I am onto other things now.  i admit i am a bit of a gear junkie.  GL w your purchase

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