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VT and NH, where to go Saturday?

post #1 of 20
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Never mind, we're going to Killington. A little bit farther but actually cheaper than Okemo, hopefully better snow.

Obviously everything will be crowded, but which would you pick up there?

Mostly thinking about Okemo, Sunapee or Stratton.
Edited by davidbeinct - 1/15/15 at 11:30am
post #2 of 20

What do you like to ski? I like Okemo and Stratton better than Killington b/c I like skiing wide/long top to bottom groomed black and blue runs. Killington's vertical is fake (no true top to bottom run) but it is steeper than the others. It is MLK weekend and nice forecast for Saturday. So expect long lines wherever you go. My guess the gondola line at Killington or Stratton won't be any shorter than 30 minutes. Singles line may help little bit. Have fun!

post #3 of 20

If you're skiing the I-93 corridor in NH, the least crowded is always Canon. It's the best mountain too, IMO.

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If you're skiing the I-93 corridor in NH, the least crowded is always Canon. It's the best mountain too, IMO.

Never been to cannon but got a free pass w new ski purchase. Looking forward to it.
post #5 of 20

Oh, I'll throw in a nod to Sunapee.  Can't say what the lines will be (haven't skied an MLK Saturday there for years), but the terrain is more interesting (I didn't say challenging) than Okemo or Stratton.  I'll be there on Monday, I think -- unless the rain threat grows, in which case I may opt for Saturday.

post #6 of 20

Saturday is going to be real cold.  Forecast says -8 at 8am on sat in Ludlow (Okemo).

post #7 of 20
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Saturday is going to be real cold.  Forecast says -8 at 8am on sat in Ludlow (Okemo).


Yeah, so I've heard.  It might kill the crowds and keep the snow killer.  I may do it (if I can convince my wife, a temperature wimp).

post #8 of 20
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Oh, I'll throw in a nod to Sunapee.  Can't say what the lines will be (haven't skied an MLK Saturday there for years), but the terrain is more interesting (I didn't say challenging) than Okemo or Stratton.  I'll be there on Monday, I think -- unless the rain threat grows, in which case I may opt for Saturday.

Skied Sunapee today - the snow was great all over the mountain!

post #9 of 20
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Originally Posted by Partizan Turks View Post
 

What do you like to ski? I like Okemo and Stratton better than Killington b/c I like skiing wide/long top to bottom groomed black and blue runs. Killington's vertical is fake (no true top to bottom run) but it is steeper than the others. It is MLK weekend and nice forecast for Saturday. So expect long lines wherever you go. My guess the gondola line at Killington or Stratton won't be any shorter than 30 minutes. Singles line may help little bit. Have fun!

Partizan Turks, (or anyone else that can answer the question)

 

What exactly do you mean by – no true top to bottom run) ?  (I think I know, but I just want to be sure my understanding is correct.)

 

I looked on a trail map of Killington and it appears that one can ski from

  • Skye peak to the SkyeShip area lift (and take the lift back up again to Skye peak)
  • Killington Peak or Snowdown Mtn Peak to K-1 lodge area lifts (and take the lift back up again to K-peak or Snowdown peak)

 

Are you referring to Killington's true vertical (1645 feet) compared to its actual elevation difference of 3,033 feet? (This is what I think you mean, but I am not sure.)

post #10 of 20
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Partizan Turks, (or anyone else that can answer the question)

 

What exactly do you mean by – no true top to bottom run) ?  (I think I know, but I just want to be sure my understanding is correct.)

 

I looked on a trail map of Killington and it appears that one can ski from

  • Skye peak to the SkyeShip area lift (and take the lift back up again to Skye peak)
  • Killington Peak or Snowdown Mtn Peak to K-1 lodge area lifts (and take the lift back up again to K-peak or Snowdown peak)

 

Are you referring to Killington's true vertical (1645 feet) compared to its actual elevation difference of 3,033 feet? (This is what I think you mean, but I am not sure.)

 

That's how I read it too. The listed vertical for Killington is 3033 feet. That's simply the measurement from the highest point to the lowest. But you can't actually ski a single run from the highest point to the lowest, so their vertical is not accurate compared to other resorts listed verticals. 

 

I think you know this too, but that's why http://www.mountainvertical.com exists.

post #11 of 20
Ummmm great eastern.....
post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by dbostedo View Post

 

That's how I read it too. The listed vertical for Killington is 3033 feet. That's simply the measurement from the highest point to the lowest. But you can't actually ski a single run from the highest point to the lowest, so their vertical is not accurate compared to other resorts listed verticals. 

 

I think you know this too, but that's why http://www.mountainvertical.com exists.

 

Like snoseek said - Great Eastern.

Most dismiss it as a green run. Try doing it non stop as fast as you can ski it and then do it two more  times at the end of day.   

Not as easy as most think. Good to build up your legs. 

post #13 of 20
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Like snoseek said - Great Eastern.

Most dismiss it as a green run. Try doing it non stop as fast as you can ski it and then do it two more  times at the end of day.   

Not as easy as most think. Good to build up your legs. 


KingGrump,

 

Is Great Eastern one of the better long trails on Killington?  (It looks nice on the trail map – length-wise and view is decent via satellite.)

Seems to be a nice meandering trail through the trees. 😁

 

Dbostedo,

 

http://www.mountainvertical.com is a useful site.  I also like using OntheSnow for general mountain information. (I would really be nice if I could pick and choose the areas for comparison)

 

I am guessing that you have been to Whitetail from your logo.  ( I have skied there the last two years 2014, 2015 February both times)  Nice place to ski.


Edited by GreyPilgrim - 8/23/15 at 5:11pm
post #14 of 20
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Originally Posted by KingGrump View Post
 

 

Like snoseek said - Great Eastern.

Most dismiss it as a green run. Try doing it non stop as fast as you can ski it and then do it two more  times at the end of day.   

Not as easy as most think. Good to build up your legs. 

 

That's an interesting point... according to Mountain Verticals definition : True-Up Vertical asks the question - what is the typical full amount of drop that you would normally ski, run after run, when you go to visit that ski resort.

 

So I guess Great Eastern (and whatever leads into it from the peak) doesn't satisfy that definition according to them.

 

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I am guessing that you have been to Whitetail from your logo.  ( I have skied there the last two years 2014, 2015 February both times)  Nice place to ski.

 

Yep - I most frequently ski Whitetail. I like going to a variety of places to mix things up, but Whitetail was 6 of my 13 days last season.

post #15 of 20
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Is Great Eastern one of the better long trails on Killington?  (It looks nice on the trail map – length-wise and view is decent via satellite.)

Seems to be a nice meandering trail through the trees. 😁

 

 

NOOOOO. I get to ski it since I always park at sky ship base whenever I can. Cuts off 9 miles on my drive. Especially the access road. Which usually FUBAR.

Also it's my son's favorite trail when he was small. We would run it 3 times non stop after 3:30 PM just for laughs.    

 

If it looks nice on the trail map, then the marketing folks there should definitely get a raise. :D

It's just a looooooong green trails with a bunch of switch backs. But if taken non-stop at top speed it can be fun. Great place to work on your tuck and your quads.

   

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Originally Posted by dbostedo View Post

 

That's an interesting point... according to Mountain Verticals definition : True-Up Vertical asks the question - what is the typical full amount of drop that you would normally ski, run after run, when you go to visit that ski resort.

 

So I guess Great Eastern (and whatever leads into it from the peak) doesn't satisfy that definition according to them.

 
 

 

Everyone can have whatever they want to define as "True Vertical". Often depends on what they are trying to sell. 

My definition is whatever I can ski from the top of a lift to the lowest point I can without getting my butt back on another lift.   

 

So if I start at the top of Killington Peak (K1 Gonola) and ski down in sequence Great Northern, Blue Heaven, Bear Trax and then Great Eastern to skyship base. That would be the run from the highest point (Killington Peak - 4,241') to the lowest point (Skyship base - 1,165'). An elevation change of 3,076'.   

 

No lift riding, just skis on snow moving DOWNHILL.

Definitely not my favorite run at Killington, but it works. 

post #16 of 20
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Originally Posted by KingGrump View Post
 

 

NOOOOO. I get to ski it since I always park at sky ship base whenever I can. Cuts off 9 miles on my drive. Especially the access road. Which usually FUBAR.

Also it's my son's favorite trail when he was small. We would run it 3 times non stop after 3:30 PM just for laughs.    

 

If it looks nice on the trail map, then the marketing folks there should definitely get a raise. :D

It's just a looooooong green trails with a bunch of switch backs. But if taken non-stop at top speed it can be fun. Great place to work on your tuck and your quads.

   

 

Everyone can have whatever they want to define as "True Vertical". Often depends on what they are trying to sell. 

My definition is whatever I can ski from the top of a lift to the lowest point I can without getting my butt back on another lift.   

 

So if I start at the top of Killington Peak (K1 Gonola) and ski down in sequence Great Northern, Blue Heaven, Bear Trax and then Great Eastern to skyship base. That would be the run from the highest point (Killington Peak - 4,241') to the lowest point (Skyship base - 1,165'). An elevation change of 3,076'.   

 

No lift riding, just skis on snow moving DOWNHILL.

Definitely not my favorite run at Killington, but it works. 

 

 

We do the same, parking at the Skyship base to shorten the ride home.  Plus that base is quiet and laid back with no hassles.  The run you describe from Killington Peak to the Skyship base is one of our favorites and makes for a great end-of-the-day run when your legs are spent.

post #17 of 20
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Originally Posted by KingGrump View Post
 

 

NOOOOO. I get to ski it since I always park at sky ship base whenever I can. Cuts off 9 miles on my drive. Especially the access road. Which usually FUBAR.

Also it's my son's favorite trail when he was small. We would run it 3 times non stop after 3:30 PM just for laughs.    

 

If it looks nice on the trail map, then the marketing folks there should definitely get a raise. :D

It's just a looooooong green trails with a bunch of switch backs. But if taken non-stop at top speed it can be fun. Great place to work on your tuck and your quads.

   

 

Everyone can have whatever they want to define as "True Vertical". Often depends on what they are trying to sell. 

My definition is whatever I can ski from the top of a lift to the lowest point I can without getting my butt back on another lift.   

 

So if I start at the top of Killington Peak (K1 Gonola) and ski down in sequence Great Northern, Blue Heaven, Bear Trax and then Great Eastern to skyship base. That would be the run from the highest point (Killington Peak - 4,241') to the lowest point (Skyship base - 1,165'). An elevation change of 3,076'.   

 

No lift riding, just skis on snow moving DOWNHILL.

Definitely not my favorite run at Killington, but it works. 

KingGrump,

 

Thats one reason I thought the trail looked nice – it appeared to be a loooooong trail.  :)

 

It appears to be a three lifts (minimum) to get from Skye ship base to K-peak summit.  (Is that accurate?)

 

Off-topic

 

Is there any information (here or elsewhere on net) on trail lengths based on color code? (ie GRN, BLU, ♦, ♦♦)

post #18 of 20

I learned to ski as an adult and spent a long time as an intermediate at Killington -- I guess I'm a slow learner ;) .  I remember when wandering around, exploring, was a big part of what I enjoyed.  Great Eastern is a good run for that (it used to be even better, before Bear and Skye expansion added trail crossings).  It is long, but has enough pitch to keep moving.  (P.S. Juggernaut does not. Stay away from Juggernaut.)

Once you move up a little, the blue 4 Mile Trail is nice for the same reason.

 

Also, in the old days the gondola went all the way from Route 4 to the Killington Peak summit.  Several years ago they chopped it up and moved the top segment.  I admit I don't remember the details of the current layout.

post #19 of 20
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Thats one reason I thought the trail looked nice – it appeared to be a loooooong trail.  :)

 

It appears to be a three lifts (minimum) to get from Skye ship base to K-peak summit.  (Is that accurate?)

 

Off-topic

 

Is there any information (here or elsewhere on net) on trail lengths based on color code? (ie GRN, BLU, ♦, ♦♦)

 

Sorry about the "loooooooong" trail thing. I'm not much of a green trail skier. Mostly steeps, bumps & trees.

 

Two lifts from skyship base to Killington peak. From top of skyship, aim towards bottom of the Superstar quad. Don't loose speed at the bottom, just take a few skating steps to get from bottom of Superstar to the K1 Gondola.  

 

I hate stats. I ski by feel. Can't help you there.

post #20 of 20
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I learned to ski as an adult and spent a long time as an intermediate at Killington -- I guess I'm a slow learner ;) .  I remember when wandering around, exploring, was a big part of what I enjoyed.  Great Eastern is a good run for that (it used to be even better, before Bear and Skye expansion added trail crossings).  It is long, but has enough pitch to keep moving.  (P.S. Juggernaut does not. Stay away from Juggernaut.)

Once you move up a little, the blue 4 Mile Trail is nice for the same reason.

 

Also, in the old days the gondola went all the way from Route 4 to the Killington Peak summit.  Several years ago they chopped it up and moved the top segment.  I admit I don't remember the details of the current layout.

 

Dead on with NEVER EVER do Juggernaut. On some section you have to take off your ski and walk across the road while dodging traffic - not fun. 

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