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Which boots: Nordica FireArrow, Salomon race, or Fischer vacuum?

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 

I have used only Full Tilts for about 12 years (had Raichle comps back in the day).  The 3-piece with the buckle on the ankle bone is the only boot that really locked down my small ankles.  I still love them, but I want a little more stiffness and response. (I may try the 8-flex tongue and a stiffer liner...)

 

Me: 53, Part-time instructor (2nd season); never raced but I'm thinking of doing masters this season.

5'7 155

Aggressive, quick feet (I liked the lightweight FT's) but I'm not so powerful.

The Nordica would give me the 3-piece in a stiffer shell, but if the vacuum or Salomon custom can lock down my ankle, I might prefer them.  I've heard the Fischer's are light.

Assume price is about even with the deals I can get.

post #2 of 12
So here you go. The three boot companies you've chosen have very different fits compare to each other, and some extreme differences within their different respective boot lines. A salomon X-max isn't anything like an X-pro or even less like a Quest Max. If you have a small well defined heel, other than the Doberman series of Nordica boots, you're better served by other boots. The Fischer boots have a lot of ramp angle and forward lean. Combine that with the wrong binding, and you'll feel like you'll have to ski like you're squatting in the outhouse with a cold toilet seat.

Boot lines with aggressive heel pockets, the Head Raptor RS. Some of the Tecnica boots. Some of the Dalbello line which you might like as they're sort of a 21st century Full Tilt if you have to have a cabrio shell design, but without evaluating your foot 1:1, no one can really tell you what s going to work.

The deal is, with an open mind, go to a well regarded shop with a great fitter and let them sort it out. I wouldn't worry a ton about weight (pardon the pun)... Get the fit, flex, and alignment right, and you won't care what badge is on the boot.
post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 

Thanks.  I was hoping the Fischer Vac and Salomon custom would solve the ankle hold problem.  The problem I had with 4-buckles was that in my size I always felt either the toe or the calf was squeezed but the ankle loose.  Unfortunately FT doesn't make a racing line.  Maybe I'll look at Dalbello. There is a fitter here in WInter Park that carries them.

post #4 of 12
Higher volume foot with a higher instep and narrow heel, Head Vector. But that doesn't really gybe with a Full Tilt foot.
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Just wondering what you mean by locking down your ankle. Do you mean your heels have been lifting, or do you mean lateral sloppiness. If it's teh former, then I'd say you might want to be aware of ramp angle, forward lean, etc.

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Just wondering what you mean by locking down your ankle. Do you mean your heels have been lifting, or do you mean lateral sloppiness. If it's teh former, then I'd say you might want to be aware of ramp angle, forward lean, etc.

... and he might simply have range of motion issues with his ankle (lack of dorsiflexion)... hard to say.
post #7 of 12
Thread Starter 

No, the 'lateral sloppiness', thanks.  The problem was either squeezing the shins or the toes with the 4-buckle (tried on every pair made one year--never went back after getting the 3-piece.)

post #8 of 12

what about something close to your foot shape  and add a zipfit liner

post #9 of 12
Thread Starter 

By the way...I went with the Vacuum 130's RC4 40% sale at end of 15 season at Breck.  One molding session including liner (stock).  I'm extremely happy with the boot (I do use toe warmers on top of my socks); light, stiff, locks ankle down.  Just starting to pack out a bit after about 40 days but I will try remolding after this season (Breck shop no extra charge).  

post #10 of 12
Great fit. I've been in Vacuums for 6 seasons now and they're the best boots I've had ever. Factory liners work ok for some people, but I think they're junk. Zipfit Gara liners aren't cheap but they make a great boot fit and ski even better.
post #11 of 12

I'm quite happy with my Tecnica Mach I. The stock CAS liner is moldable and fits well out of the box. Since I bought mine they now have a 98mm last low volume version.

post #12 of 12
We should all be quite happy with a well fitted boot appropriate to our foot, mass, ability, desired outcome, etc... Whether or not 'my' boot works for someone else isn't important in the least. Your fitter (or any fitter here) will confirm this. smile.gif
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