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Salomon BBR Series for very rusty skiers getting back into it?

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I know these skis are out of production and didn't sell well. They're available cheap all over the Internet, and I even have a line on a pair of new BBR 8.9s for less than they go for on ebay. Everything I've read seems to suggest these would be excellent skis for low intermediate skiers interested in a do everything ski that is forgiving on groomers, fun on easier off-trail stuff regardless of snow conditions, and can handle a little powder.

 

So I guess my questions are these: is my perception of this ski correct? Would they make good "getting back into it" skis for an athletic ex-skier and current snowboarder (me) and a somewhat athletic ex-skier (girlfriend)?

 

For reference, I am considering the 179cm BBR 8.0 with integrated binding or the 186 BBR 8.9 with "binding TBD" for me and the 165cm BBR Starlite for my girlfriend. She is the one who turned me on to these skis.

 

For reference, I'm 34, 5'9" and 205lbs, very physically active (run, bike, lift weights, advanced aggressive snowboarder  who gets out 2-3X week, Nordic ski occasionally). I have skied only occasionally since I was in my late teens. My girlfriend is 28, 5'5" and 160lbs, moderately active, very strong in the legs from rock climbing, and skied quite a bit as a teen. We would be skiing at Bridger Bowl in Montana primarily, so generally excellent quality snow and lots of it, plus fairly burly terrain.

 

I should note that I push myself very hard on a snowboard and will not be content sticking to groomers on skis for very long. I was riding pow (and often eating it) on my fourth day on a snowboard, for reference. She probably won't push it as hard as I do, but as a teen she loved skiing powder and wants skis that won't be horrible in it even right now. Right now I'd say we'd both rate as green/blue skiers.

 

Thanks for any replies!

PS: we know they're goofy looking and might earn a few giggles thrown in our direction. We're both secure enough that this isn't a factor. Only performance is. :)

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haha...Welcome to epic! Well we were just talking about how these got no love.

Honestly can't comment, never tried them.

 

Consider the 10.0 if you're going to ski Bridger and are coming from a snowboard. 97mm underfoot, ginormous 145 tip

 

Few reviews:

http://www.epicski.com/products/2013-salomon-bbr-10-0

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I demoed then and hated them, but hated them enough that I never gave them a second run, so really am not speaking from a position of knowledge. I guess they were the 8.9. The day I tried them was before they had varieties, some special Salomon thing that went on for maybe a week?
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Ask @T-Square -- I think he said he loves his.

 

Let me also welcome you to Epic!

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I would say buy them. I bought a pair of 8.9 for 100 new without bindings I figured I'll just use them as a rock ski. They have actually turned into one of my favorite skis. They are exceptionally easy to put on edge. They are an extremely forgiving ski compared to skis such as stormriders. They are not as hooky as the shape would suggest. They are still relatively stable at speed. I found them to be fine making gs turn down somewhat steep east coast groomers. In powder they perform like a much wider ski. I have found them to be a bombproof ski I dropped around 15 feet on to a rock with them and no significant damage occurred. The cons to them is that they aren't as fun to ski in moguls as some other skis I have. They are terrible to ski backwards with and on large kickers they are kind of sketchy if you land backseat. I liked the 8.9 so much I snagged a pair of the 10.0s off ebay. Also the most recent series of bbrs that came out besides the 10.0s is almost a completely different ski then the old ones. The new one are significantly softer and not as durable and are cap construction not sandwich.

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The lack of BBR love was really too bad. Because for intermediate skiers they have been quite a hit. Super fun, easy going, easy to turn, playful ski. Not great in snow over 8 inches or so. but I've put many family and friends on them and they've been almost universally praised. People who are progressing into high end gear tend to "outgrow them" for higher top end carvers and better pow skis but for the person looking for an easy going all Mtn ski, they are fantastic. And yes, they can be had for next to nothing.
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I know a true expert level skier who loves them, and he rocks the bumps in them. I've never tried them, but been awful tempted watching him ski them. 

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Thread Starter 

I actually got back on skis today for the first time in two years (rentals), and I skied shockingly well. Almost all blues and one run down the easiest black on the hill. So I went ahead and bought those skis.

 

Now for bindings...

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Male, age 66, 250#, 6'1" -- 'has-been-jock' -- Came late to skiing [and, golf].  Ceritified; teaching at Wachusett Mtn. since 2005/06.  Missed 2-seasons due to surgeries: bilateral knee replacements, cardiac ablation & hip tenotomoy.

 

Came back for the 2013/14 season; however needed equipment as prior to surgeries as I had sold my -- 2005-HeadSS-66/165, and 2007-Rossignol Z9-Oversize-74/162; kept the 2003-K2 AxisXP-74/174 for pre/late season.

 

Early 2014, demo'd the Rossignol/Experience88, Nordica/SoulRider, Volkl/RTM84 & Kastle/LX82-MX83-FX84 ... Bought the LX82-flat; put on the the Knee/Carbon binding.  WHY:  It handled anything on the mountain, from carving down groomed slopes to Wachusett's icy 'hardpacked.' A good GS-ski that's light-weight, easy-to-turn, has quick edge-to-edge transitions and great edge grip, and more  versatility to travel off the grooms.

 

However, as the 2015-season has progressed, Wachusett has developed these seldom [ie.rare] accumulations is unusual 'ungroomed stuff' of powder/crud accumulations, I found the need/want for a ski that would handle more float and deliver a shorter turn radius than the Kastle/LX82. I remebered that our Salomon-rep [Director of the ski school] had been 'more than vocal' about the BBR's capabilities in the 'ungroomed stuff' ... Bought the 8.9 version-88/176[12.5] online for $300 and put on the Knee/Core binding. On-snow for 3-days for teaching & clinics ... The most fun I've had in a long time!  As I look back over the seasons, the BBR is about as close to a one ski quiver as I have ever skied. It's good in almost every condition -- from the Wachusett groomers, to the icey 'hardpack', to the 'frozen, snow-cone' bumps, to this 'ungroomed stuff.' The BBR is the first ski I've had that handles all these conditions.  Although it may be 'ugly' in appearance, it's versatility [easy turn initiation, quick transitions, strong grip, greater float] makes it the 'best, all-conditions' ski I've ever used.

 

Find it.  Buy it. You'll love it.

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