Very impressive. what were the conclusions? Great relief for pain, so far. Great! You speak as though I'm against this. All I said was I'm still deciding. btw- a fandom population to be significant should be in the thousands not 50 or 60 or 200. You mentioned injections. Great! With injections it may do wonders. I merely choose not to jump on the band wagon of every fad that comes along, that's all.
Here's some things which may be interesting.
Dr. Dean: To my knowledge, we have not seen detriment, except that people might ignore a torn ligament or something like that. So I can’t see anything bad. I’m keeping an open mind on it.
Some of these supplements are just worthless…they’re either worthless, or harmful, or there is no evidence of any positive effect at all. With this particular one there is enough interest in evidence that it might be helpful, but the studies I’ve seen are talking in a league of like an aspirin, in terms of relief of pain.
But they’re supposed to be able to help you grow new cartilage. Well, it’s not as simple as eat bones and you get strong bones, or eat cartilage and you can grow new cartilage. It’s not that simple.
Dr. Dean: To my knowledge, we have not seen detriment, except that people might ignore a torn ligament or something like that. So I can’t see anything bad. I’m keeping an open mind on it. Dr. Dean Edell
The major problem with glucosamine in my mind is the stomach acid factor. Whe you swallow something, you know, your stomach just breaks it down –- the acid hits it and digestive enzymes hit it –- and you don’t get any benefit from the supplement you are taking because of this.
People think they just swallow something. And if that were the case, we wouldn’t have injections; we wouldn’t have to inject people with anything. So some of these things, even though it might make sense when you swallow them, they’re destroyed by the stomach. So there are a lot of criticisms of the glucosamine studies.
I’d rather people do the right things to prevent injury rather than this stuff. You’ll hear all kinds of things; it’s impossible –- you cannot listen to people’s personal experiences about anything. That’s an anecdote and it supposedly went out in the 19th century, but of course, it’s more alive today than every before. - This is in response to a dance teacher who asked about glucosamine.
On the other hand-
We don't know if glucosamine will prevent the development of arthritis, but it may well be worth a try. It does not appear to provoke serious side effects or interact with most medications.
Chondroitin is more controversial. Most of the research showing its benefit for arthritis patients has used injectable chondroitin; it is not absorbed well from the digestive tract. There is very little information available on side effects, and the combination of glucosamine and chondroitin has not been thoroughly investigated.
"Thoroughly" is the operative word here!
Notice I am trying to present both sides of the issue here. Glucosamine looks very promising. Perhaps no better than other pain relievers, but then, what if someone is allergic to other pain relievers? Glucosamine may be the answer.
Glucosamine and chondroitin- There was some question as to cholesterol level increse. There is no scientific evidence to this yet, but there have been many reports that htis happened. But htis may be just a cause and effect situation. We don't know other contributing factors in these persons health make up. Too many varibles.
See? Both sides!
But then if you find your cholesterol go up, try this-
Guggul is derived from the resin of an Indian tree. It lowers total cholesterol and triglycerides and raises beneficial HDL cholesterol. Some people are allergic to this herb, however, so please be cautious.
Again both sides.
So far it's a great pain reliever, not a cure, doesn't rebuild cartilege. Most likely no side effects.
I still sit on the fence, leaning toward your side. I have nothing against it. Time is the best proof.
And above all, if this works for you, by all means take it! If it relieves the pain it may be helping in the long run. Just as Aleve or equivalents keep down swelling, it may lessen the effects of arthritis when we are older. Pain and swelling can do so much damage. Taking Aleve and /or glucosamine may help us way down the road.
For crying out loud... if I see you in pani and you are out of glucosamine, I'll go to the store and get it for you! I'm not against it, I just choose to reserve final judgement for myself taking it. Sheesh!