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Blizzard Viva 8.0 - need advice on whether to replace the IQ suspension bindings

post #1 of 8
Thread Starter 

Hi everyone

 

I'm new to the EpicSki community and I wanted some advice for my wife's ski setup. I don't know a lot about skiing as I snowboard so your expertise most welcome!

 

My wife was given a 165 2013 Blizzard Viva 8.0 with the IQ suspension bindings already fitted (http://skis.findthebest.com/l/1045/2013-Blizzard-Viva-8-0-Suspension). Like I said, I don't know much about skis but the Viva and it's bindings don't much look too suitable for soft snow, which is the conditions we mostly ride in (in Hokkaido, Japan - lots of powder - though we don't go backcountry too often, mostly on piste and the side). She'd like to give them a try out on our next trip in Feb but I wanted to ask:

 

- Should I swap out the IQ suspension bindings for ones that arent as aggressive (and don't have as much or a rise on them - the IQ suspensions look seriously lifted) for the softer snow conditions of Japan?

- If I should swap out the bindings, which model would you guys suggest?

 

My wife is a high intermediate to low advanced skier who is not too aggressive but has been skiing for the past 15+ years so can more than hold her own.

 

Thanks

Kuro

post #2 of 8

It isn't the IQ system on that ski (with which you would not be able to attach an other binding), but the Full Suspension one (with the piston, right?). Just to clarify things.

 

My girlfriend had great experience with the Salomon Z10 and Z12 and with the Atomic FFG 10 and FFG 12 (same as the Salomons, if I'm not mistaken, but branded differently, and often cheaper).

 

But I'm not sure if the Suspension binding that's on the ski right now is so bad for powder. I think it's pretty all-mountain.

post #3 of 8
Thread Starter 

hi Cheizz

 

Yes the binding is the full suspension - with the little red piston in the middle. I mean, it looks pretty solid, but I'm just wondering why it's so lifted and whether it will be ok for soft / powdery snow, even on piste. I'm ok to give them a shot in Feb - just dont want my wife being uncomfortable on them in softer conditions. From what I understand the Viva 8.0 is very much a stiff, carving ski. The bindings look like they add more stiffness with the suspension tacked on so wondering if I need to remove and replace with other bindings.

 

I think my wife's other ski, an Armada, has the Salomon Z10, which definitely has served her well. So thanks for the suggestion!

post #4 of 8

The binding system in that ski is integrated and really cannot be replaced. It is not the height that is giving her issues in powder, but the stiffness of the ski. Like you said it is more of a hard snow ski/binding combo. 

post #5 of 8
Thread Starter 

Philpug - the bindings including the rail/riser actually screws off so it definitely is removable. The Viva 8.0 is also sold as a flat option so the suspension system is added on for the packages. I guess the screw holes that have already been drilled would need to be filled though, if the bindings were to be changed.

 

But ok, if its the stiffness of the ski that's the problem, then I guess no other binding would help when in powder. Note that she hasn't skied on it yet so I am just guessing it may not do well on powder.

post #6 of 8
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Originally Posted by kurosawa79 View Post
 

Philpug - the bindings including the rail/riser actually screws off so it definitely is removable. The Viva 8.0 is also sold as a flat option so the suspension system is added on for the packages. I guess the screw holes that have already been drilled would need to be filled though, if the bindings were to be changed.

 

But ok, if its the stiffness of the ski that's the problem, then I guess no other binding would help when in powder. Note that she hasn't skied on it yet so I am just guessing it may not do well on powder.

Yup, I was thinking of the Viva 8.1 that was the IQ Max. Either way it is a pretty stiff ski, even with the bit of early rise in the tip & tail. It is a good crud buster but will plow in soft slow not rise above it. You can replace the binding, but I don't think it will change the inherent characteristics of the ski. 

post #7 of 8
Thread Starter 
Got it. Thanks Philpug

One last question: does it make a difference in powder if there is about a 10mm lift (as is the case with these IQ bindings) in the bindings vs one that is completely flat to the skis?
post #8 of 8

I think Phil already replied wiht "You can replace the binding, but I don't think it will change the inherent characteristics of the ski."

 

If you want to make a change, it is not worth the money to change the binding.

 

I have a pair of Blizzard 8.0magnaums with the piston in the binding, and I also demoed with a more regular binding, and they're more or less the same, it just absorbs a little vibration.  It is like if you just put a few of the shock absorbers into a tennis racket.

 

you are better off leaving the ski as it is save it for harder snow, or if you really aren't going to use it, sell the ski and hopefully use the money to buy the ski that your wife likes better.

 

Investing more money into the ski to replace the binding is halfway to buying a new ski (and won't change anything).

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