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12 Volkl racetiger SL UVO vs 12 Bizzard S-power

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 

Currently in market for a pair of SL skis for my 500ft vertical ice hill, I am 6ft, 200lb, and wondering what are people thought on these two skis?

post #2 of 17

I have been researching those two skis for about a year and they are about as close as you can get. I have not skied either one but a buddy of mine has and he loves both of them. 

 

I just bought a pair of Volkl Tiger shark 10 ft for my 300 ft vertical hill in Ohio. I could have gotten either of the two you are comparing but these came up for a very good price. It would be great to hear how you like the one you buy. Doubt you will get much info here on those two. I would think you can steel the S power. Here is Dawgs review one of the more knowledgeable skiers on Blizzard.

 

https://www.dawgcatching.com/blog/ski/2013-blizzard-ski-review

post #3 of 17
Okay, this is total unhelpful drift, but that THING glued onto the tip of the UVO just looks so cheeseball and likely to get knocked off. It's like your six year old found the super glue and decided to cement one of his toys to your ski. Maybe I could get past it if I skied it and fell in love ... I own Volkl slaloms now and like them. And Real Skiers rhapsodises over the UVO. But really. So artless.
post #4 of 17
If you want Uvo without the Volkl, just get a Flo pack. Way more absorption. Heavy. Even more artless?

http://floskis.com/id41.html
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post #5 of 17
You can buy the UVO online and put them on any ski
post #6 of 17
I cannot comment on the Blizzard however I have the 2015 Volkl race tiger speedwall UVO SL in a 165 and love them.
I am 6 foot 220 lbs and it's the perfect groomer zoomer for me. My last pair of slaloms was a 2004 Atomic sl 11 in a 171.
Oh yeah I also have a 2013 pair of Dynastar Speed Course TI in a 171.
The Volkl is smooth, super quick and easy to handle. Great all around groomed, hard snow ski. Good luck finding some.
post #7 of 17
Thread Starter 

Thanks all!

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Originally Posted by ZrxMan01 View Post

I cannot comment on the Blizzard however I have the 2015 Volkl race tiger speedwall UVO SL in a 165 and love them.
I am 6 foot 220 lbs and it's the perfect groomer zoomer for me. My last pair of slaloms was a 2004 Atomic sl 11 in a 171.
Oh yeah I also have a 2013 pair of Dynastar Speed Course TI in a 171.
The Volkl is smooth, super quick and easy to handle. Great all around groomed, hard snow ski. Good luck finding some.

Do you know if the new volkl has any different than the 12-13 volkl one? 

post #8 of 17
The ones I have are the non FIS version and are slightly wider this year.
123 68 104 with a 12.7 M turn radius.
post #9 of 17
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Originally Posted by qcanoe View Post

Okay, this is total unhelpful drift, but that THING glued onto the tip of the UVO just looks so cheeseball and likely to get knocked off. It's like your six year old found the super glue and decided to cement one of his toys to your ski. Maybe I could get past it if I skied it and fell in love ... I own Volkl slaloms now and like them. And Real Skiers rhapsodises over the UVO. But really. So artless.

Agree about aesthetics, seriously ugly in person. But people I know who ski them say it's a significant difference, makes them very damp. Paging Scots Skier: Are the new WC SL's decent? 

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Agree about aesthetics, seriously ugly in person. But people I know who ski them say it's a significant difference, makes them very damp. Paging Scots Skier: Are the new WC SL's decent? 


Can't comment on the FIS slaloms, haven't been on them since the added the UVO, was never a big fan of them in the past.    This years real-deal Volkl FIS race stock slalom doesn't have the speedwell this year based, which has slightly changed the feel, based  on info from a sponsored athlete.  

 

I can say that the current Volkl FIS GS is a top-class ski, way better than recent years.  The UVO seems to work well without making it too damp.  I found the GS is probably the smoothest of the current crop of GS skis into the turn entry so the UVO may or may not have something to do with that.  It is good enough that I own a couple of pairs of them in 188/30 and am racing on them this year :) 

post #11 of 17

Interesting. What didn't you like about the previous models? I've heard that the Marker WC plate makes them fairly stiff compared to some other brands, 4 years ago skied a pair with a different plate loved their quickness and grip, sort of a zippy feel, but touch lively for my taste. I'm scouting them less for me than for my older son. The junior models have a current reputation for being very competitive, on the flexier end of the genre so ideal for lighter kids. Was interested if the same could be said of the FIS versions. He'd be on the 155, I'd predict. 

post #12 of 17
I can tell you that the Head Fis slalom this year has the top aluminum sheet go all the way into the tip. Last year it stoped like 8 inches short. My nephew prefers this yers much more. Whether that translates to much lighter skier don't know. He'a like 6' 2" 185.
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Useful but in the other direction for us; my son next season will top out at about 158 cm or so, maybe 90 lbs. Doesn't sound like a starter. Here, Heads are popular among the older or bigger kids. 

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I can tell you that the Head Fis slalom this year has the top aluminum sheet go all the way into the tip. Last year it stoped like 8 inches short. My nephew prefers this yers much more. Whether that translates to much lighter skier don't know. He'a like 6' 2" 185.


interesting,  I am supposed to have a couple of pairs of 165 2015 Head FIS slaloms coming so hopefully will find out. Shouldn't be too stiff as they were elected for a 150# FIS athlete.  Head was a bit behind others for slalom skis but are rumored to have caught up this year.  there has also been a change in the plate


Edited by ScotsSkier - 1/13/15 at 8:16pm
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Originally Posted by beyond View Post
 

Interesting. What didn't you like about the previous models? I've heard that the Marker WC plate makes them fairly stiff compared to some other brands, 4 years ago skied a pair with a different plate loved their quickness and grip, sort of a zippy feel, but touch lively for my taste. I'm scouting them less for me than for my older son. The junior models have a current reputation for being very competitive, on the flexier end of the genre so ideal for lighter kids. Was interested if the same could be said of the FIS versions. He'd be on the 155, I'd predict. 


Hmm, a bit different thoughts here!  In the past their slalom ski always just felt too dead/lifeless for my tastes (i felt the same about Fischer) and a bit underwhelming in performance  I don't think it is the plate, I am a big fan of the marker WC plate, in my experience it actually smooths out the flex.  They do seem to work very well for the lighter athletes, a lot of the kids/girls here are on them, particularly the 155.  Yes, flexier too,  I have seen quite a few spectacular ones when they are loaded up by a capable lighter kid!! :)

 

But it does reinforce that i need to get on a new pair and try them to see if they have made the same leap as the GS ski.  i would put the level of improvement there as similar to the quantum difference in Rossi/Dynastar from about 5 years ago when they moved to the slant-nose ski 


Edited by ScotsSkier - 1/13/15 at 8:16pm
post #16 of 17
Just to be clear that Head was the 165.
post #17 of 17
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interesting,  I am supposed to have a couple of pairs of 165 2015 Head FIS slaloms coming so hopefully will find out. Shouldn't be too stiff as they were elected for a 150# FIS athlete.  Head was a bit behind others for slalom skis but are rumored to have caught up this year.  there has also been a change in the plate


I skied that ski for a day last summer.  Loved it.   Not quite as snappy/lively as my Atomics but not dead feeling.

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