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Midwest Skier Looking for Ski Recommendations

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 

-I mostly ski in the Midwest, with a trip to SLC about every season.

 

-I’m an intermediate/advanced-intermediate skier, looking to continue to improve, carving/becoming more comfortable on steeper terrain/in variable conditions

 

-Not really an aggressive skier at this point, but I have been getting more comfortable skiing a faster, think proper length will help with this

 

-Around 6ft, 200Ibs and what I’m on right now are some Volkls, probably over 10 years old, 170 length, and 65-70 width.

 

-Considering skis like the Rossi Experience series and Blizzard Latigos, and I’ve looked at stuff like Atomic Theory and Line Sick Days but think those might be a bit much based on what I ski currently.

 

-I want something in 175-180 in length probably, and based on what I ski more frontside focused. Any recommendations are appreciated.

post #2 of 21

Do you have any options for demoing a Brahma or Kendo?  Both are pretty lively and carvy skis that work well in the midwest.  

post #3 of 21

Midwest skier here as well. I just did a complete demo day thing as well and ended up buying the Head Supershape i.Rally. Just fits the way I ski and my skill level. I went in ready to buy the Brama. Hated it. get on some different skis and see what fits and you like the most.

 

I am right at your size and have the 177. Awesome ski by the way.

post #4 of 21
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I've heard good stuff about the Kendo and the Brahma, just personally worried they might be too stiff for my skill level. Do you have to ski really fast all day on them? I think the demo options are pretty limited around here, but I should be able to demo whatever I can't here when I go out west. 

 

I haven't heard as much about Head, but I'll definitely have to look into those as well. 

post #5 of 21
Where do you ski locally? Reason i ask is b/c if it is in or near win cities joes through wild mountian is the only place that demos unfortunatley and selection can be limited, havent looked at this years
post #6 of 21

For the midwest I'd stick to a ski with smaller turning radius and not super stiff. This way you can get more turns in. A front-side biased all mountain would suit you well imo. Something like

 

Rossignol Experience 84

Salomon X-Drive 80 FS

Volkl RTM 80

 

Plenty others in this class of ski. Please try to demo!

post #7 of 21

To me the Brama was really, really heavy. I had a hard time really getting the edges to dig in and carve it. And I demoed that one first, was essentially the first guy on the hill right after a fresh hard pack groom. But with skis like the Volkl 81 and 84 and the Head Supershapes that I bought. My ability to really carve was night and day.

 

The Head is a stiff ski and I was not 100% sure I could handle it until I got on a pair. It is stiffer than the Brama.

 

Where do you normally ski?

post #8 of 21

Given our small hills and usual firm conditions, the skis that are all the rage elsewhere are not optimal for the midwest. A shorter turn radius and grippier edge makes for a more area-appropriate ski around here. At least that's my preference. For a midwest daily driver I'd stick to under 16 meter turn radius and under 80mm waist and as little rocker as the ski manufacturer's marketing departments will allow their engineers to design.

 

I skied the Kendo a few years ago (back when I owned a pair of mantras) and my take is that its low-20s nominal turn radius didn't make it any more nimble than the Mantra so if you're going that route you might as well just buy a pair of Mantras. Great ski, but not a one-ski-quiver for these parts.

 

The short answer of course is to demo.  Where do you usually ski?

post #9 of 21
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Originally Posted by Wet Doggg View Post
 

Midwest skier here as well. I just did a complete demo day thing as well and ended up buying the Head Supershape i.Rally. Just fits the way I ski and my skill level. I went in ready to buy the Brama. Hated it. get on some different skis and see what fits and you like the most.

 

I am right at your size and have the 177. Awesome ski by the way.

 

Having skied in the Midwest forever and being fluent with the Supershape line, I can tell you that the i.supershape Rally would be a fantastic candidate.  It comes in 170 or 177

post #10 of 21
Thread Starter 

I usually ski at Perfect North Slopes, in SE Indiana.

post #11 of 21
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Originally Posted by gregmerz View Post
 

 

Having skied in the Midwest forever and being fluent with the Supershape line, I can tell you that the i.supershape Rally would be a fantastic candidate.  It comes in 170 or 177


The supershape is an awesome ski, but at 6'2" 185 myself the 170's were just too short for me. I'll give them another shot when I find a place that has the 177's to demo. I mention this because the OP is roughly the same size and a bit heavier. But I am biased towards sizing up, I enjoy the stability. YMMV.

post #12 of 21
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Originally Posted by Lemon Zest View Post
 


The supershape is an awesome ski, but at 6'2" 185 myself the 170's were just too short for me. I'll give them another shot when I find a place that has the 177's to demo. I mention this because the OP is roughly the same size and a bit heavier. But I am biased towards sizing up, I enjoy the stability. YMMV.


Yeah, I definitely want something in the 175-180 length. I demoed the 14/15 Experience 80 at 176 at the end of last year, after riding way too short rentals all season, and the difference in speed/stability was amazing. 

post #13 of 21

Like I mentioned before, my Head I.Rallys are 177 and are just awesome. If you can't find the head to Demo, give the Volkl RTM 81 a try. They felt the closest to the Head. If you ever come north. Crystal Mountain here in Michigan has the Supershape line available as a rental.

post #14 of 21
Demo the Head Rev 85 Pro 177 if you get the chance, they're my daily driver in SE Michigan and I'm quite pleased.
post #15 of 21

Perfect North has at least the RTM 80 171 (and some narrower or shorter), Rossi E84 around that length (and a lot of other Rossis) and the Head Rev 78 170. They don't have the Rev 85 as a demo. I wasn't looking at Soloman, but I think there are some demos.

 

I loved the stable, grippy RTM 80 and hated the slip and slide E84. I'd like to try the RTM 81 and RTM 84, and maybe a 176, but I'm not sure if they have them. The Rev showed some potential, but the 78 wasn't stiff enough for my size.

 

The sales guy in the loft shop discouraged me from trying anything past 170ish, but I wish I had ignored his advice. To his credit though, the RTM 80 he suggested was a great call and would not have been on my radar otherwise.

post #16 of 21

The Latigo is on my list too, but I haven't found a demo.

post #17 of 21
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Originally Posted by Wet Doggg View Post
 

Midwest skier here as well. I just did a complete demo day thing as well and ended up buying the Head Supershape i.Rally. Just fits the way I ski and my skill level. I went in ready to buy the Brama. Hated it. get on some different skis and see what fits and you like the most.

 

I am right at your size and have the 177. Awesome ski by the way.

 

 

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Originally Posted by midwestskidude View Post
 


Yeah, I definitely want something in the 175-180 length. I demoed the 14/15 Experience 80 at 176 at the end of last year, after riding way too short rentals all season, and the difference in speed/stability was amazing. 

Your quote above is exactly why demoing is so important if you can do it.  Some times we think we are less of a skier than we are due to equipment holding us back.  It's hard to feel comfy ripping long arcs when your skis have a short radius and are too soft to do so.

The trick is to find the ski that allows you to enjoy what you are doing today while still allowing you to progress as you get more comfortable.  It the midwest, you are almost better off with a 72 to 82mm front side carver and renting fat boards out west.

post #18 of 21
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by sgarnett View Post
 

Perfect North has at least the RTM 80 171 (and some narrower or shorter), Rossi E84 around that length (and a lot of other Rossis) and the Head Rev 78 170. They don't have the Rev 85 as a demo. I wasn't looking at Soloman, but I think there are some demos.

 

I loved the stable, grippy RTM 80 and hated the slip and slide E84. I'd like to try the RTM 81 and RTM 84, and maybe a 176, but I'm not sure if they have them. The Rev showed some potential, but the 78 wasn't stiff enough for my size.

 

The sales guy in the loft shop discouraged me from trying anything past 170ish, but I wish I had ignored his advice. To his credit though, the RTM 80 he suggested was a great call and would not have been on my radar otherwise.


I didn't even realize that their shop did demos, will definitely check that out. I pretty sure the little place on the road to PNS, The Ski Depot I think, also rents out demos for the day. So you might want to check that out if you haven't yet.

post #19 of 21
PN charges $10/hour and you can exchange as often as you want. I've never stopped the Ski Depot - guess I should!
post #20 of 21
It's Ski Train Depot. They rent for the day and for the season. I need to find out what they have.
post #21 of 21

Hey guys looking to buy the Kendo as strictly a Midwest ski.  I am an expert skier 5'8 165lbs, and i'm torn between the 170 and 177.  I ski the Hell and Backs in a 178 and the Soul 7's in a 180 but since i'm only going to be using this ski in the Midwest most of the time should I go shorter with the 170?   

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