OK, believe you about the specific skis; don't much follow STP and DWS except for oddities like plates or for clothing. But just not sure where those skis come from, or who paid what for them, or how many hands they've been through. The Clymb and SAC, IMO, offer a lot of freestyle twins and fats, and often from particular brands - Faction comes to mind - that apparently are being overproduced, and a lot of Fischers that never seem to catch on with Americans. I haven't seen any skis I'd want to own, and they I do follow. DWS does offer some skis I'd want, but at prices a lot like anyone else; the stuff that's cheap is like 6 year old Stocklis or some of the innumerable fat Elans no one every buys.
Mainly I feel that it's kinda weird to be pressuring brick and mortar retailers here to lower their prices to compete with the STP's of the world when in fact all we know is that the STP's have far lower overhead per unit, and can afford to make a smaller margin on top of that because of volume. We don't know where they get their skis from - manufacturers or retailers or other - and we don't know what prices the upstream suppliers charge them. Could be, for instance, that if they get their skis directly from the manufacturer they have a deal that the manufacturer wouldn't cut with a local store.
You'd be surprised how often manufacturers undercut local merchants, either by diffusing the brand online, or by violating non-compete agreements and letting the guy down the street carry the same brand you're showcasing. Notice that Nordica and Blizzard are buzzing their 2016 models, will release them early. What's that do to the merchants carrying 2015's? Yeah, Phil's dutifully showcasing them here, but curious what this will do to SH's sales of this season's along about mid Feb. Or could be that STP got skis from a retailer going out of business, or from a big box brick and mortar store that can take a loss. I've seen that happen in other retail.
IMO if Kastle is dumping skis on STP - and the MX83 is an odd one to dump, since it's very popular - they're asking for a cheapening of the brand. Why should anyone pay for a premium brand if they can get it next season for half price? I doubt they're dumb enough to do that, but I've been wrong before in overestimating manufacturer IQ. And if our own retailers could get those same skis at the same price, they must be fairly dense not to.
Wake up and smell the coffee, Finn: Brick and mortar stores across America are getting creamed by online behemoths like Amazon. Tried to find a bookstore lately? And I'd guess skiing stores are in added trouble because of the iffy economic and physical climate. So if you can prove to me that Whiteroom or Dawg or Phil or the rest here are not working with the manufacturer to get them at the same price as STP just because they're lazy or uncreative, I'll listen. But I don't believe that. So Show me.