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Hi Phil - I notice the 2014 Scott The Ski is still in your quiver. How does this ski compare to the Enforcer? I remember a couple years ago the The Ski was all the rage here. Which ski would you recommend for an advanced intermediate at 6'5" 230lbs athletic 60 year old? Thanx!


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Still no reply by Phil?

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Still no reply by Phil?

Sorry, I don't check in here that much any more. 

 

Long Term Test: 2017 Nordica Enforcer 93, which is what The Ski will go up against more. 

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Your horse won't drink the water? smile.gif

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Not in response to you — or anyway, a joke.  I'm over there all the time! :D

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How deep would it have to get before you guys would switch out your Enforcers for a wider powder ski, if at all?  I picked up a pair in 185cm this season and love them so far, but don't have a lot of experience with the amount of snow Tahoe is shaping up to get over the next week or two (on any width). They're my only skis so I'll have to demo if I want fatter ones.  I've skied the Enforces in up to ~1 foot of powder and they did well and I had fun, but I don't necessarily know what I'm missing.

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if you had fun you aren't missing anything.  

If you find 1 ski going one way and anthoter going a different way, because the skis are tracking different directions in the snow (because we don't all ski like gods)  and you fall over, then try some pow skis.

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I've skied 90mm wide Nordica Steadfasts in something over 20" of fresh powder.  The Enforcer sort of feels like a wide Steadfast but at 100mm the Enforcer will be easier in deeper snow.  More important than the ski is your skill level.

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How deep would it have to get before you guys would switch out your Enforcers for a wider powder ski, if at all?  I picked up a pair in 185cm this season and love them so far, but don't have a lot of experience with the amount of snow Tahoe is shaping up to get over the next week or two (on any width). They're my only skis so I'll have to demo if I want fatter ones.  I've skied the Enforces in up to ~1 foot of powder and they did well and I had fun, but I don't necessarily know what I'm missing.

 

I got to demo the 100 Enforcer 185 cm in 2+ feet of unbroken fresh and then chop.  (me 150 lb., 5'10") 

 

The ski was excellent in that much powder, no problem, super fun.  You are not giving up much on this particular narrower ski.

 

But, for me, wider in powder is often better, from 5" of fresh on up.

 Float is fun, easier, more options.   

 

For example, that same day I skied in the same conditions:

 

112 V-Werks Katana 184 (best): 5 stars*; light weight for its width, great float, handling, quickness, versatility (good on groomers and soft bumps), stability; 

118 K2 Annex/Pinnacle 184 (second best that day; Seth's pro ski): 5 stars, not as quick, maybe very slightly better stability at high speed, great handling, good float, great carve on groomers, works in mild bumps;

100 Enforcer: 5 stars; precise, fairly quick, great handling, smooth, stable, versatile (in bumps and groomers); 

100 Salomon Rocker2 18? (fourth best): 4 1/2 stars.  Great ski; only super skis beat it.     

 

All four skis were very good, and I was happy with all of them.  But, because of width, versatility and float, I bought the Katana, still feel an itch to buy the Pinnacle 118, and would be happy to own the Enforcer.

 

* Ski favorites, to me, involve lots of personal preference, vary for different folks, different styles and strengths.  

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Not to thread-jack .....

But I also recently re-bought the VW-Katana in 184 but won't get on them until next season.

( I had them last year in 177 and sold them for really no good reason, other than to try something else )

I'm seeing at other forums that more guys have also bought into the VW-Katana's as they have been discounted quite a bit.

I have never read one bad thing about them at any forum I frequent.

I think they didn't get much mainstream love because A) they were from Volkl ,  B) they were $1300+ MSRP,  C) they are 112 wide

For 112 wide, they are very versatile IMO -> groomers, off-piste, junk, etc. 

No ski does it all, but the VW-K are very good at a lot of things ( IMO )

 

~ Andy

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I can report from the Monday before the Aspen gathering that for me, a 185 Enforcer worked pretty well in the 3-ish feet of fresh, fluffy powder. The snow was too light for it to really float near the top, but it didn't have any tendency to get stuck or dive. The snow coming to Tahoe will almost certainly be heavier than that, so the Enforcer should do pretty well.

 

I would still go with a Super 7 or something similar the day (or maybe half day, if you're at Squaw on a weekend) after a storm comes through, but after that you'll probably have a better time on the enforcers in any choppy snow.

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Thanks for the input everyone.  I ended up taking them out in the 20" at Northstar on Sunday, and then on Squaw on Monday on the 49"+ (!) that had collected while the upper mountain was closed. That was something else.  I'm sure I'd have had a little easier time with more float, but turns out that in those conditions optimizing my choice of ski and spending time at the demo shop were the last things on my mind.  The Enforcers were amazing in the soft chop after things got tracked out a bit, which I guess isn't news, but I was surprised at how many people were leaving at that point... I was still having almost as much fun as laying fresh tracks.

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Thanks for the input everyone.  I ended up taking them out in the 20" at Northstar on Sunday, and then on Squaw on Monday on the 49"+ (!) that had collected while the upper mountain was closed. That was something else.  I'm sure I'd have had a little easier time with more float, but turns out that in those conditions optimizing my choice of ski and spending time at the demo shop were the last things on my mind.  The Enforcers were amazing in the soft chop after things got tracked out a bit, which I guess isn't news, but I was surprised at how many people were leaving at that point... I was still having almost as much fun as laying fresh tracks.

That's how it usually goes at Squaw. 

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