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Men's Ski for a woman? K2 AMP Stinger

post #1 of 19
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Someone in my office has a great deal on a pair of K2 AMP Stingers, brand new from 2012, still in the wrapper. They're 156cm and I'm considering buying for my daughter.  She's a bigger body type girl, 5'6" tall, and so I was thinking a men's ski might actually work better for her. She's a beginner, but working toward Intermediate fast, it looks and sounds like a ski she would have fun with, but being a mens ski will that make enough of a difference to impact her skiing? Any advice would be greatly appreciated,,, thanks!

post #2 of 19
Sometimes a deal is to good to be true.

5'6" is not that big, I'd guess avaerage. My GF is 5'6" but she's 55y/o. Has Burn'in Lov's and Kenja's. This is her 4th ski season.

One of are ski house mates, now she's 5'11" and a PSIA II instructor for over 25 years. She has womens skis.

I would pass and focus on a women's ski. IMO she will have an easier time.


Another story, my long time ski friends, she's 5'1" 120lbs may be, he's 5'10" 170lbs. For years they had the same skis, hers shorter. We would talk on the lift about how our skis felt. She would say nothing.
Then K2 came out with the Burn'in Lov's. After a few runs on them, she say's, "I now know what you guys are talking about" I can feel the ski and the snow...
post #3 of 19
Thread Starter 

Great advice, thanks Max! I was thinking pretty much the same, stay with woman's gear.  

post #4 of 19
I really think you should be focusing on the particular ski, not the supposed gender. Some skis the only difference is graphics.
post #5 of 19
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Sometimes a deal is to good to be true.

5'6" is not that big, I'd guess avaerage. My GF is 5'6" but she's 55y/o. Has Burn'in Lov's and Kenja's. This is her 4th ski season.

One of are ski house mates, now she's 5'11" and a PSIA II instructor for over 25 years. She has womens skis.

I would pass and focus on a women's ski. IMO she will have an easier time.


Another story, my long time ski friends, she's 5'1" 120lbs may be, he's 5'10" 170lbs. For years they had the same skis, hers shorter. We would talk on the lift about how our skis felt. She would say nothing.
Then K2 came out with the Burn'in Lov's. After a few runs on them, she say's, "I now know what you guys are talking about" I can feel the ski and the snow...

 

I'm not all that familiar with Volkl's line up but a salesman in a ski shop once told me that the woman's Kenja and men's Kendo are the same skis with different graphics and lengths. So as Sibhusky has suggested, ignore the mens/womans thing and focus on the proper ski length, flex, width.

post #6 of 19
Again, I only know what I read, and the fact that the buddies 5'1" wife demoed the Black Pearl, Volkl Aura's and wasn't going to waste time on the Kenja, until I had to talk into demoing them. Afterwards she told me she was glad I talked her into the demo of the Kenja's. She loves them.

Her first comment was, she was amazed at the edge hold, then how easy they were to ski. I just smiled and said that's why I love my Kendo's.

If you read the ski magazine ski test the past few years, the Kenja's get high marks for forgivness, among the other high scores.
post #7 of 19
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5'6" is not that big, I'd guess avaerage. 

I would pass and focus on a women's ski. IMO she will have an easier time.
 
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Great advice, thanks Max! I was thinking pretty much the same, stay with woman's gear.  

 

Why? Explain. 5' 6" is plenty big for unisex skis, unless she weighs 93 lbs. No reason to stay AWAY from women's skis, for sure, but no reason to look ONLY at them, either.

post #8 of 19
Just based on what I've heard, seen and read. "Most" women seem to be happier on women's skis...I hope that doesn't make me sexist...
post #9 of 19
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Just based on what I've heard, seen and read. "Most" women skiers seem to be happier on women's Volkl skis...I hope that doesn't make me a sexist Volklist...

 

Fixed it for ya'. In case you thought we didn't recognize you coming and going. :) 

post #10 of 19

I was once a Volklist but now I am a Filpcoreus.

post #11 of 19
This woman doesn't have any "women's" skis. Only one time was I tempted any time I've demoed. Of course, I'm a lot larger than your daughter.
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Of course, I'm a lot larger than your daughter.

But I'm not, which is, in part, what prompted my comment.
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5'6" is not that big, I'd guess avaerage. 


I would pass and focus on a women's ski. IMO she will have an easier time.

 
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Great advice, thanks Max! I was thinking pretty much the same, stay with woman's gear.  

Why? Explain. 5' 6" is plenty big for unisex skis, unless she weighs 93 lbs. No reason to stay AWAY from women's skis, for sure, but no reason to look ONLY at them, either.
This. ^^^ I'm no expert on kid's skis, but plenty of women, including some who aren't particularly tall or hefty, ski men's skis, and plenty of women's skis are exact duplicates of a man's ski. I think that's true of most if not all of Volkl's women's skis and many Blizzard and Salomon skis, and from Rossignol's 2015 video introduction to the Temptation line, it seems that it's identical to the men's Experience series.

I'd want more information, too. Your daughter's weight could be as big a factor as her height, because some kids are a grundle of muscle, while others are built like birds. Other factors would be how quickly she's progressing, as well as how strong and athletic she is in general. And there are women's skis, and then there are women's skis; flowery limp noodles designed to protect a tender girl skier from overexerting herself, or exciting adventure-seekers designed for maximum fun.
post #14 of 19

I second what's been said above. For many manufacturers, the only difference between men's and women's skis is graphics and available lengths. I would really focus on your daughter's height, weight and ability.  I'm 5'7" and 190lbs+ and part of why I prefer some men's skis is because they come in longer lengths, suited to my height, weight and ability. Many women's skis top out at 163, which just isn't long enough for many. I have kenjas and my SO has kendos, but there is no real difference between the ski except that he needed a longer length and, in the year of purchase, I preferred the kenjas' graphics. I hate coming into a ski store and, when looking at blizzard bushwhackers, the ski guy comes over and tries to steer me towards 152 length 'pretty' skis. 

 

I guess, in short, don't get her typed early on into 'women's' skis. I would say have her demo some and see what she prefers. Even as an advancing newer skier, if she tries a couple of skis, she will be able to tell what she likes.

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Thanks, I wouldn't want to get a reputation on here as being a sexist...smile.gif LOL


But really, I got to thinking about who I ski with and what I've noticed. A little background, I have been a season pass holder for about 18 years, so I do ski a lot and know a lot of skiers some that ski just about everyday.

All, yes all the women skiers who have season passes that I know all ski on women skis. Some are PSIA III some are PSIA II, others just free ski. There ages run mid 40's -70+. Hey I even know a race coach, X-downhiller from Burke Mt Academy, she's on womens skis for her free skis. Her mom is a ski house mate, who's a PSIA II all her skis are women skis.

They can all be on the wrong ski.
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post #16 of 19
Oh, all the female skiers I ski with have women's skis. But I outweigh all of them by 50 pounds or more. And, FWIW, none of them care enough about their skis to do their own tuning. One has a husband who does it, another a son. Most don't even get their skis waxed regularly. (And their version of regularly is not mine).
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Thanks, I wouldn't want to get a reputation on here as being a sexist...smile.gif LOL


But really, I got to thinking about who I ski with and what I've noticed. A little background, I have been a season pass holder for about 18 years, so I do ski a lot and know a lot of skiers some that ski just about everyday.

All, yes all the women skiers who have season passes that I know all ski on women skis. Some are PSIA III some are PSIA II, others just free ski. There ages run mid 40's -70+. Hey I even know a race coach, X-downhiller from Burke Mt Academy, she's on womens skis for her free skis. Her mom is a ski house mate, who's a PSIA II all her skis are women skis.

They can all be on the wrong ski.

 

The point to remember is some or possibly all of those "woman's skis" could be identical to the "man's skis" except for girly graphics and shorter lengths.

post #18 of 19

They'd be fine. Not a demanding ski to begin with. And an athletic young woman 5'6" is at the 75th percentile for height, according to the CDC, while the ski length is more like the 50th p for women. I know several women between 5'6" and 5'8" who own unisex skis in the 160-164 range, FWIW. 

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Fixed it for ya'. In case you thought we didn't recognize you coming and going. " src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/smile.gif"> 

 



Thanks, I wouldn't want to get a reputation on here as being a sexist...smile.gif LOL


But really, I got to thinking about who I ski with and what I've noticed. A little background, I have been a season pass holder for about 18 years, so I do ski a lot and know a lot of skiers some that ski just about everyday.

All, yes all the women skiers who have season passes that I know all ski on women skis. Some are PSIA III some are PSIA II, others just free ski. There ages run mid 40's -70+. Hey I even know a race coach, X-downhiller from Burke Mt Academy, she's on womens skis for her free skis. Her mom is a ski house mate, who's a PSIA II all her skis are women skis.

They can all be on the wrong ski.

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Fixed it for ya'. In case you thought we didn't recognize you coming and going. smile.gif




Thanks, I wouldn't want to get a reputation on here as being a sexist...smile.gif LOL



But really, I got to thinking about who I ski with and what I've noticed. A little background, I have been a season pass holder for about 18 years, so I do ski a lot and know a lot of skiers some that ski just about everyday.


All, yes all the women skiers who have season passes that I know all ski on women skis. Some are PSIA III some are PSIA II, others just free ski. There ages run mid 40's -70+. Hey I even know a race coach, X-downhiller from Burke Mt Academy, she's on womens skis for her free skis. Her mom is a ski house mate, who's a PSIA II all her skis are women skis.


They can all be on the wrong ski.

The point to remember is some or possibly all of those "woman's skis" could be identical to the "man's skis" except for girly graphics and shorter lengths.
This is very true, and incidentally is also handy to know when you're looking for the right length or a good bargain.

I've also noticed that many ski or demo shops that carry a limited variety of women's skis will stock the men's/unisex version of a ski and not the women's. That's why I try to check whether a women's ski I want to try has a men's equivalent before hitting the demo shops, as well as whether that shop even demos either one in a length that might work for me.
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