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post #1 of 6
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I'm skiing on a pair of Salomon boots that by their age probably should have been replaced 3 seasons ago. I largely ski from the bottoms of my feet, balancing on the sweet spot of the skis and only use forward leverage from the top of the shaft when necessary.  The longevity of these boots has far outlasted my expectations. They are still intact, but replacement at some point in the near future is inevitable. 

 

When I bought my current boots they fit PERFECTLY.  I wear an 11 street shoe but am in a 27.5 boot. They had mold-able liners which did not need molding.  Because of this they have broken in very well, but are beginning to break down a bit after extensive use. My stance in these boots is perfect,  I have had the boot soles on my current boots ground which made a HUGE difference in performance. 

 

I am told that the current crop of boots tend to have less ramp angle, straighter shafts... and told that  many models have soles that cannot be ground. I've been so happy with my current boots and ski that I've stopped paying a.ttention to gear almost entirely until now. If I could buy another pair of the same boots I would, but obviously that isn't possible. 

 

FWIW, my left ankle is partially immobilized due to a childhood injury so a boot that has too flat a stance doesn't give me enough flex in my ankle before locking out. I add a small heel lift to give my left that little extra range of flex. Nobody would know to watch me ski. But when I do max out the flex in my ankle I get a shock of pain going thru my entire body. You can only imagine how I have to approach bumps. So, getting the ramp right is critical for me. 

 

And so, I am in a position to be looking to buy boots when I can rather than when I have to. Based on my criteria of ramp angle/stance and boot sole grindability does anyone have any suggestions as to which boots I should be looking at. I do better with boots that aren't narrow so I can downsize. Also I don't like overly stiff boots. I'm thinking 100-110 flex. 

 

Thanks in advance. 

post #2 of 6

You are correct, in general the current crop of boots have less forward lean and lower boot board angles---both of which can easily be changed..

 

I would suggest that if you need boot sole canting you might look at some of the heat moldable shell boots (Fischer, Salomon, Atomic) that have come to the market over the last few years.  The shell of the boot will automatically align with your leg shaft and still orient the boot sole to a flat position, eliminating the need to plane the boot sole.

 

mike

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Originally Posted by miketsc View Post
 

You are correct, in general the current crop of boots have less forward lean and lower boot board angles---both of which can easily be changed..

 

I would suggest that if you need boot sole canting you might look at some of the heat moldable shell boots (Fischer, Salomon, Atomic) that have come to the market over the last few years.  The shell of the boot will automatically align with your leg shaft and still orient the boot sole to a flat position, eliminating the need to plane the boot sole.

 

mike

Interesting. You're saying the SHELLS mold as well as the liners?  Knowing I might need more ramp angle, how does one go about doing that in a boot that might start out flatter?  Do you do it before molding the shell and liner?  What methods are generally used nowadays?  In my current boots I use a heel lift in my left, then use tape on the bottom of my orthotic to refill the void in the mid foot section left when the heel is raised. Also, I put a little tape underneath my toes to give me something to push back against. 

post #4 of 6

Use a heel lift to change the angle.

 

The heat moldable boots in Fischer are heated to 180 F which with a liner in between you and the shell, is just warm to the person being molded.  The shell then gets defined shaping around the ankles and heel and fore foot but is comfortable and skis very well.

 

mike

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This sounds like what I want. I've tried on the Fischers albeit without my orthotics and they are at the top of the list.  I assume that the heel lift has to be inside the boot before molding. Can they be remolded (molded more than one time) if needed? 

 

Thanks.

post #6 of 6

Yes, heel lift in before molding

 

can be molded 5 times according to Fischer---so you could remold if the liner packed out.

 

mike

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