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Griffin or Jester Demo bindings as good as the non-demo version?

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I know there has been a lot of talk about people using Marker Griffon/Jester demo bindings, as opposed to the Marker Schizo versions of those bindings, so they can adjust fore and aft positions. I did a bunch of searching, but could not come up with the answer I was looking for.

 

 So, my questions is: do I give anything up performance wise going with the demo version of these bindings?

 

Thanks.

post #2 of 11
The demo version of these bindings ski closest to retail version as almost we any binding.
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I've had demo Griffons on multiple pairs of skis and no problems at all. Love being able to play with fore aft positioning to dial in the skis sweet spot.

Mike
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New, off the bat, the binding is tight and will work with no measureable loss of performance.

 

After lots of use down the road they will develop a fair amount of play, especially in the toe.  Where as a regular retail binding will not.

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New, off the bat, the binding is tight and will work with no measureable loss of performance.

After lots of use down the road they will develop a fair amount of play, especially in the toe.  Where as a regular retail binding will not.
i disagree. The retail one also creates the same slop. While the demo versiona of these are not perfect, they ski true to their retail counterparts.... Sloppy,
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i disagree. The retail one also creates the same slop. While the demo versiona of these are not perfect, they ski true to their retail counterparts.... Sloppy,


I double disagree.  I have never seen almost centimeters of lateral slop on a Griffon or Jester toe, no matter how worn.  But I have on the rental binder.  Maybe I over spoke my hand saying the retail doesn't get slop, that is not true, I take that back.  But those really worn rental/demo Jester Griffons have shocked me with the wobble play they develop.

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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

i disagree. The retail one also creates the same slop. While the demo versiona of these are not perfect, they ski true to their retail counterparts.... Sloppy,


I double disagree.  I have never seen almost centimeters of lateral slop on a Griffon or Jester toe, no matter how worn.  But I have on the rental binder.  Maybe I over spoke my hand saying the retail doesn't get slop, that is not true, I take that back.  But those really worn rental/demo Jester Griffons have shocked me with the wobble play they develop.
can we agree that these are the least of the evils when it comes to rental/demo bindings? I do think the new attack demo will be good.
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NEVER!!!! :D

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Don't mind Phil much, he used to be a used car saleman in a previous life... wink.gif LOL
post #10 of 11

Oh, just having a good time fellas. 

 

I have the general standpoint that rental bindings are the best rental bindings.  And retail the best retail.  Though the Marker may be among the least smelly turds when it comes to the performance quality of their rental binding, it is still just a rental binding.  They are great for what they are designed for.

 

*full disclaimer; truthfully if you have a binding, and you go skiing on it, and you have fun, then you have the best binding in the world and switching to something else with the hope that you continue to have fun don't make no sense.

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Thread Starter 

Thanks for the replies gents.

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