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CSIA red uniform - for L4s only or not?

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I was always under the impression that only CSIA Level 4s wore the red uniform, since Level 3s are a dime a dozen (okay, not quite, but you get my drift).

 

Yesterday, I saw a Level 3 wearing it while conducting a Level 1 course and it struck me as odd. Is that normal/acceptable?

post #2 of 7

Course conductors wear a CSIA uniform. Not sure if the level 3 uniform is different from the 4.

 

I understand there's a certain amount of disdain for course conductors arbitrarily skiing around in course conductor uniforms, much like instructors skiing around with their pins prominently displayed. The premise is that your turns should do the talking, rather than your bling. (moot point for me anyway, although many years ago when I got my level 1 pin and put in on my jacket, the customer service girl at Silver Star immediately pointed out how lame I was...)

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Course conductors wear a CSIA uniform. Not sure if the level 3 uniform is different from the 4.

 

Okay, I guess I am confused by the practice at my home mountain (Grouse), i.e. L3s wear the corporate uniform even when conducting a Level 1 course, and only L4s wear the CSIA red.

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I understand there's a certain amount of disdain for course conductors arbitrarily skiing around in course conductor uniforms, much like instructors skiing around with their pins prominently displayed. The premise is that your turns should do the talking, rather than your bling.

 

Is this because the qualification is not always deserved, or given to those not capable of maintaining the standard. Or is it just sour grapes?

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Is this because the qualification is not always deserved, or given to those not capable of maintaining the standard. Or is it just sour grapes?

 

I didn't even occur to me until recently that this was a "thing"... doubt it's sour grapes, since the person describing the situation to me was a level 4.

 

I've always avoided skiing around in my ski club's jacket - I'd rather be incognito!

post #6 of 7

wear the uniform you represent national. If a CSIA level 3 is running a PDP which they do, or a kids module or a Level 1 and are working directly for national, they are allowed to wear a uniform, if of course one is available. Uniforms aren't given, we buy them, or there are 'loaners' around. I gave my one out this morning to a level 3 who is doing a park course today and needs a uniform. 

I wouldn't ski in it normally as I'm not representing the CSIA, as you wouldn't wear your school's uniform when freeskiing....

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Is this because the qualification is not always deserved, or given to those not capable of maintaining the standard. Or is it just sour grapes?

No organizational conspiracies here, just 'morays'.

Let you're skis and reputation carry the load. My pin's on the mantel. I've worn it once. Personally though, I never notice/care one way or the other if someone wears their pin. Jackets... on the clock, it's on. Off the clock, I'm in my ski 'civies' . Divisional staff only wear their kit during divisional events, etc.... I also don't wear any 'advertising' clothing, etc... unless they're providing gear and or industry discounts, but that's a different topic.
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