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Coaching advance U12

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 

Hey all,

 

Anyone have any ideas on drills beside Skill quests for U12's?  Just looking for some fun things and ideas that other have used outside the skills quest stuff.

 

Thanks in advance.

post #2 of 19

1 Footed Skiing

Whirlybirds

Backwards carving

Touch the hill drill (create big angles on a pitch and touch the snow on the uphill side.)

Shlopies

hop turns

Picture frame (hold poles upside down and "keep the picture ;evel"

Unbuckle the boot tops and FLEX the ankles.

Skate Racing up the hill

starts

Up the hill drill.  Have the athlete  ski below you and hold a carve as far back up the hill as they can.  

Lift the Uphill ski

Lift the DOWNHILL ski

pole jumpers

slackline

post #3 of 19

If I were working with a group of U12's I would show them drills that activate their feet and ankles. Working these things would benefit any age group really.

 

Exercises like:

  • Phantom drag (inside ski tail lifted and held against the outside boot through the turn)
  • Stationary tipping and stationary hop tipping
  • Hands on their knees while tipping; stationary and moving
  • Stationary tail hops and foot pull back
  • All of the above without poles

 

There are advanced versions of these, but the majority of U12's won't be able to execute them well without a lot of practice.

post #4 of 19

Shiffrin has a series of youtube drills that are worth checking out. Some of them may be too hard for U12 but would be great for U14: 

 

post #5 of 19
Find the Ski Coach app in the appstore - by CSCF (canadian ski coaches federation), it is about U12 and has a bunch of drills, environment ideas, the technical standards and a lot of videos.

The old one has a lot of drills. The new one will require a login to unlock the planning and advanced drills, from what I hear, but it's not available yet.

Edit/P.s. i checked again and the drills are all in environments, i.e. You'd need to set something, not freeski.
post #6 of 19
I forgot... here are the drills I like.... There are some half day plans in there as well.

http://www.askicoach.com/wiki/Razie_Ski_Blog/tag/drill

Cheers
post #7 of 19

If I were skiing with a group of U12s I'd start by watching the ski before picking a drill for them.

post #8 of 19
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Originally Posted by epic View Post

If I were skiing with a group of U12s I'd start by watching the ski before picking a drill for them.
not neccessarily - they would be different skills and levels so i think you could just walk them all through basics with the eyes closed.... wink.gif especially align stance and figuring out range of motion and balance.

Cheers
post #9 of 19

@razie, you still have the Penguin drill in there.  Didn't you have second thoughts about it?

post #10 of 19
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@razie
, you still have the Penguin drill in there.  Didn't you have second thoughts about it?
still think it's a good drill, has external cues and makes them figure out a lot of stuff on their own... Indeed though, not something to exaggerate or do too often and certainly not for every skill level.... Thanks for reminding me though, I'll add some more warnings there
post #11 of 19

Paging @songfta

 

This thread seems to be in your wheelhouse!

post #12 of 19
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Originally Posted by razie View Post

not neccessarily - they would be different skills and levels so i think you could just walk them all through basics with the eyes closed.... wink.gif especially align stance and figuring out range of motion and balance.

Cheers

A basic idea about stance, tipping, etc can be introduced statically before getting on skis to establish a baseline, but unless they're beginners, watching them ski for a bit with a simple task (hour glass, rhythm change, or the like) will help a coach pick appropriate drills.
post #13 of 19
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post


A basic idea about stance, tipping, etc can be introduced statically before getting on skis to establish a baseline, but unless they're beginners, watching them ski for a bit with a simple task (hour glass, rhythm change, or the like) will help a coach pick appropriate drills.


fair enough.

 

you're right - i like especially introducing them statically before getting on skis. what i do now is i don't even let them go ski tipping/angulation/separation drills without contorting their body to the extreme that I want, at the top of the hill - most of them are simply not aware of their available range of motion and have this puzzled look like "what, i can really do this"? perhaps it means "it hurts, what is wrong with you" but hey... yields much better results than just kicking them down the slope with a 5 second talk instead.

 

we run basically the same drills from U8 to U21 - every time they see it differently, focus on different things, get something else out of it or just fine tune what they got. the basic principle of drilling is indeed though that they need to understand what to focus on during the drill, what it does/feel/cues to look for and they should not be allowed to repeat with flawed movements.

 

cheers

post #14 of 19
... And focus on the feet and physical sensations.
post #15 of 19
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post

... And  physical sensations.

at U12 yeah, there's a lot of that but otherwise i usually prefer external cues: touch this, keep that, video

 

and the other thing is: video,video,video - twice a day if possible, especially at U12-U14 - the biggest improvements follow a video session - i'm not kidding:

- they do it

- they know what they did (internally: effort, felt like etc) like you said, they still remember all the physical sensations

- head inside right away and see what actually came out and compare with a benchmark

- go right back on snow and try again

- huge improvement follows instantly, for most of them

 

well, there it is, between a few of our posts here, the drilling theory for U12 :) given, of course, that the coach is qualified enough to explain and feed back on skills/technique.

 

cheers

 

edit/ps there's actually quite a lot more to it, but I think we've covered the basics

post #16 of 19
Thread Starter 

Hey guys, thanks for all the help and feedback.

 

Want to challenge my group and get them out of their comfort zone.  Some of these drills will help me do that.

 

Now I have more drills to add to the book..

 

Thanks guys.

post #17 of 19
... Anything on one ski will wake them up. smile.gif
post #18 of 19
Thread Starter 
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Unbuckle the boot tops and FLEX the ankles.


 

Unbuckle the top 2 buckles or just the top buckle?

post #19 of 19
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Unbuckle the top 2 buckles or just the top buckle?
top two buckles to remove gross boot support. Leave the strap on. Very useful variation on balance and fore/aft drills
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