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post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 

Hello Fellow Skiers,

 

Five or Six seasons ago I posted a request for advice on this forum and ended up with a pair of Dynastar Mythic Riders. Very good advice and I've loved the skis. Now I'm looking for a new pair of skis!! 

 

I live in Montana, ski western areas about 12-16 days per year. 

 

I do not ski groomers unless I have to, All about steeps, powder and trees. I don't jump anything over 5 or 6 feet and I don't ski gates or need to go super fast. 

 

I am 45 years old, 5'10" and 165 pounds.  

 

I do not consider myself an expert skier, I ski any run on any area including chutes, trees and coulouirs. ..but I didn't start skiing til I was in highschool and my form is not beautiful. I work a lot harder than I should when it gets really steep. Not a natural fall-line beauty skier for sure.

 

I'm looking for your advice on a list of skis that would be a good fit. I like a more forgiving ski that will not require a huge amount of skill or force to slow down and turn.Please no super stiff rifles. I'd be interested on your advice on width.. Given that I have a job and a kid I can't chase powder days so I end up skiing a lot of crud or marginal powder days,, so a ski that can handle chunder and chatter and crap would be good too.

 

Thanks ahead of time for any and all advice.

 

Jeff in Montana

post #2 of 17
Thread Starter 
Sorry, I miss spoke, I have mythic legends, not riders.
Thanks
post #3 of 17
a few to do some research/demo/read reviews

blizzard kabookie
line supernatural 100/92
line sick day 95
salomon q line 98/105
rossi soul 7
salomon r2 100/108
praxis freeride/9d8

just to name a few

in general I'd stay away from moment and on3p skis if you don't want a stiff or demanding skis, since most of them are gonna require some work and are quite stiff

you should be looking at ~180cm skis, I'd go for a low 100 in width or high 90s for a one ski quiver!
post #4 of 17
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the start on my research project!

 

Have been reading a lot about these and others..

 

I'm liking the reviews and the ski descriptions of :

 

Rossi Soul 7 (but is it to squishy for me?)

 

Line Supernatural 100

 

Salomon Quest 105

 

Maybe the Blizzard Kabookie

 

I've got a friend who has a pair of Cochise and I am looking forward to skiing them this weekend. Hopefully his will confirm my gut feel that a bigger crud buster like the Cochise or Mantra is not my kind of ski.... 

 

But lots more research to do.

post #5 of 17

fyi, there was no such things as Mythic Legends.

 

Anyway, I have Cochise, which are reknowned as bombers, so they may not be what you're looking for. I also have Nordica Patron's which are something you should look into.

post #6 of 17

what about the Nordica Patron? 

post #7 of 17

Owning and loving the 2014 Atomic Atutomatic (117 mm underfoot), I think the new and narrower Automatic 109 should be on your list.

 

It is wide enough for good float, but it has good all-mountain characteristics as well (my 117 mm version does). It's light and very versatile. I would take the 182 length, since it has quite a bit of tip and tail rocker.

 

Blister Gear did an extensive review of them here: http://blistergearreview.com/gear-reviews/2014-2015-atomic-automatic-109

 

So did @Philpughttp://www.epicski.com/t/126496/review-2015-atomic-automatic-109

post #8 of 17
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Originally Posted by thekidd326 View Post
 

what about the Nordica Patron? 

 

 

YEP!   my vote as well.  

post #9 of 17

I've got the 2015 Atomic Automatic 117. 10% stiffer this year adds even more versatility. This is my new daily driver for the Canadian Rockies. Best ski I've ever owned. Haven't picked up my other skis since I bought them.

post #10 of 17
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by snofun3 View Post
 

fyi, there was no such things as Mythic Legends.

 

Anyway, I have Cochise, which are reknowned as bombers, so they may not be what you're looking for. I also have Nordica Patron's which are something you should look into.

See Below--- this is the ski,, lots of words,  rider mythic legend, blah blah, blah

 

OC.jpg

post #11 of 17

If you can't chase powder, as you stated, and this is going to be your one ski, I'd steer you towards the new Nordica NRGY 100.

post #12 of 17
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the additional suggestions of the Patron and the Automatic 117.

 

Reading Blister reviews and looking at the ski profiles I "think" the Patron is a bit too playful for me with the fully rockered tail. I do spend a lot of time skiing crud and cut up powder and jump turning my way down very steep terrain..... The Patron sounds like the soft, easy to turn, forgiving and fun ski that I initaly said I was looking for,, but now after spending 6 hours reading ski reviews I'm thinking I need to land somehwere between "hard charging powder skis" (Aka Mantra or Cochise) and soft, Freestyle powder ski (Patron, Bent Chetler etc.)

 

Automatic 117 sounds like that may be the right balance for me,,, except I see they made it stiffer this year so I'll be interested to see if it skis more like a hard crud busting charger than last years model.

 

Bottom line is it is time to get out and ski some of these and see what I really do want after all. 

 

Thanks!

post #13 of 17
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Originally Posted by gwasjeff View Post


 The Patron sounds like the soft, easy to turn, forgiving and fun ski that I initaly said I was looking for,, but now after spending 6 hours reading ski reviews I'm thinking I need to land somehwere between "hard charging powder skis" (Aka Mantra or Cochise) and soft, Freestyle powder ski (Patron, Bent Chetler etc.)

 

Then the Helldorado is worth a look.

post #14 of 17
Blizzard Cochise or Bodacious.
post #15 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by gwasjeff View Post
 

Thanks for the additional suggestions of the Patron and the Automatic 117.

 

Reading Blister reviews and looking at the ski profiles I "think" the Patron is a bit too playful for me with the fully rockered tail. I do spend a lot of time skiing crud and cut up powder and jump turning my way down very steep terrain..... The Patron sounds like the soft, easy to turn, forgiving and fun ski that I initaly said I was looking for,, but now after spending 6 hours reading ski reviews I'm thinking I need to land somehwere between "hard charging powder skis" (Aka Mantra or Cochise) and soft, Freestyle powder ski (Patron, Bent Chetler etc.)

 

Automatic 117 sounds like that may be the right balance for me,,, except I see they made it stiffer this year so I'll be interested to see if it skis more like a hard crud busting charger than last years model.

 

Bottom line is it is time to get out and ski some of these and see what I really do want after all. 

 

Thanks!

I was actually suggesting the Automatic 109. But I guess the 117 would also do the job very well.

post #16 of 17


The Patron is the ski i should have picked up instead of the Line sick day 110.  On paper anyway.  You might want to check that out, too.  Great write up on Blister as well.  There has not been much snow where i ski for me to try these yet.  

post #17 of 17

YMMV, but I find 113mm to be plenty wide for a powder ski at 185lbs. Depends on how much float you want and how much versatility you're willing to give up. Btw, take Blister reviews, and all reviews for that matter, with a grain of salt. Great site, but what works for them is not always what works for you.

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