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Arc2Arc... is it that good???

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http://www.arc2arc.com/

 

 

I'm exploring some options for me this winter.  I've got some time off and can fit about a week of "training" in sometime in Jan. or Feb.  I stumbled upon these guys.  I'd like to participate in one of their camps, but it would have to be watered down to my ability.  The one-on-one training seems ideal, but I'm not sure I want to spend that amount.  I'd like to do 4 or 5 days all at once.

 

Anyone have any experience with this group?  Good, bad, indifferent? 

 

Would an aspiring intermediate be better off at a local hill with instructor X?

 

The website mentions that you will not find better value anywhere.  What do you guys think?

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http://www.arc2arc.com/

 

 

I'm exploring some options for me this winter.  I've got some time off and can fit about a week of "training" in sometime in Jan. or Feb.  I stumbled upon these guys.  I'd like to participate in one of their camps, but it would have to be watered down to my ability.  The one-on-one training seems ideal, but I'm not sure I want to spend that amount.  I'd like to do 4 or 5 days all at once.

 

Anyone have any experience with this group?  Good, bad, indifferent? 

 

Would an aspiring intermediate be better off at a local hill with instructor X?

 

The website mentions that you will not find better value anywhere.  What do you guys think?


Paging @L&AirC

post #3 of 8
I've never done Arc2Arc, but I've skied with Jeb Boyd and Erik Lipton. They're definitely better than your typical local instructors. Talk to them about your skills and goals, and make a decision based on that conversation.

BK
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As I recall, L&AirC has worked with them.  He may be teaching today.

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http://www.arc2arc.com/


I'm exploring some options for me this winter.  I've got some time off and can fit about a week of "training" in sometime in Jan. or Feb.  I stumbled upon these guys.  I'd like to participate in one of their camps, but it would have to be watered down to my ability.  The one-on-one training seems ideal, but I'm not sure I want to spend that amount.  I'd like to do 4 or 5 days all at once.

Anyone have any experience with this group?  Good, bad, indifferent? 

Would an aspiring intermediate be better off at a local hill with instructor X?

The website mentions that you will not find better value anywhere.  What do you guys think?

Yes I have skied with Arc2Arc and I agree, you would be hard pressed to find a better value. I skied with Matt though Arc2Arc about a year ago and it was one of my best learning days. It was an all day private at Cannon and we spent the entire day on getting me to ski better. He also gave me things to work on, on my own when I got back to my own turf. When I left my thoughts were that I wished I could ski with him for a week, so your plan sounds spot on.

I have had the fortune of skiing with Matt twice before in clinics for race coaches. I don't really follow who's who in PSIA, but along with everyone on Arc2Arc's staff being PSIA examiners, I believe Matt, Jeb, and Eric are on the development team. I have also skied with Sue and Eric at different clinics. All incredible skiers, and great people. I know Matt the best of them all and he is also one of the nicest people you can meet.

To make sure we got off on the right foot at training, I told him that I didn't want to be treated like a customer and didn't care for the "Cannon experience". I wanted to train and when I left I wanted to be a better skier. I told him not to worry about hurting my feelings with feedback. I told him to treat me like someone on his staff that he was paying and he needed to ski better. Because he's a professional and a nice guy, he was direct but always respectful. We joked around a bit but we were both there on a mission and stuck to it. I can't imagine anyone not liking him or not learning from him.

If you have a way to make this happen, you should go for it, send them an email or call them and talk it out with them.

Ken
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Thanks for the responses guys.  That's very helpful.

 

It certainly seems that they have some highly qualified and recognized instructors in their group.  I did a quick search online and found many of them recognized by the PSIA not only as quality instructors, but also very involved within the organization.

 

@L&AirC  It sounds like your experience is exactly what I'm looking for.  I have a few questions... Did they use video to augment your on the snow training?  I see that they provide some very technical feedback by video, but it looks like this might be a separate service provided for those that remotely send a video to them.  Additionally, how long is a day?  9-3, 10-2, 8-4?

 

I think I could pull off 3 days of private without an issue.  Not sure about 4 or 5 unless they can provide some sort of discount.  Will give them a call once they open up.

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He did take some video to show me a couple things he was talking about.

 

The day was pretty much bell to bell.  We did take about a 45 minute break (guessing) and I think one other quick break in the morning as it was freaking cold.  I'm not sure of the exact time.  Whatever Cannon's hours were, we did that and then went and had a cold one and discussed the day.  He wrote down some things for me to work on with diagrams.

 

If you have the time, go there for a week but ski every other day with them.  This way you have a day to work on things and your only added cost would be lodging and lift ticket.

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Just an update on Arc2Arc.

 

Monday I skied with Kathy Brennan for the L2 Prep Clinic.  Another incredible skier with a great eye and easy to understand.  She seemed genuinely caring and wanted to make sure everyone got everything they could from the course.  She not only helped us with our skiing but understanding of why we needed to do certain things.  Also talked about the new Alpine Technical Manual (which got me to go buy it).

 

Unfortunately, the event was cut short because of the blizzard, but that's the MA Govorner's fault because he issued a driving ban.  Because of this Kathy stayed later than normal for the event even though it was freezing, windy, a blizzard was coming, and she had a 2 1/2 hour drive to get home after she packed up from her hotel.

 

I wish we had the opportunity to ski with her the second day, but she did make sure to get as much into the one day as possible.

 

Ken

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