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Hey guys, been a minute since Ive posted here. Hoping to get some direction on a new pair of pow skis. Just skied the Rosi Super 7s in JH with 2 feet of snow over a few days and liked them quite a bit though when the new snow got skied off they fell off considerably. They were also a bit heavy even with the honeycomb tip.

 

Im looking for a powder ski right around the 115 area and have come up with this list so far:

 

Volkl One 116

Salomon Q-BC Lab 115

Blizzard Gunsmoke 115

Rosignol Super 7 116

K2 Annex 2015 118

Line Mr Pollard's Opus 118

Nordica Helldorado 113
Line Sick Day 125

Volkl Shiro 119    

4FRNT Hoji 116

Atomic Automatic Bent Chetler 2015 123

 

Im looking for an early rise, early taper, lightweight, twin tipped floater. Hoping you fine people can share your experience. Thanks.

post #2 of 10
What do you mean the Rossis "fell off" when conditions got skied out? Were they getting bounced around? If so, and you did not like it, then lightweight might be counter to what you really want. Just trying to clarify your preferences because all skis have compromises.
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Originally Posted by Dino View Post

What do you mean the Rossis "fell off" when conditions got skied out? Were they getting bounced around? If so, and you did not like it, then lightweight might be counter to what you really want. Just trying to clarify your preferences because all skis have compromises.


Hi Dino, thanks for helping. Im looking for a waist deep or deeper powder ski, thats it. Sorry if my comments were distracting. I already have a versatile all mountain.

 

If you have any experience skiing the above skis Id love to hear about it!

 

Thanks.

 

-Tyler

post #4 of 10
For a really deep snow ski, the Shiros would be a safe choice. They have a lot of tip/tail taper and the width to handle deeper snow. Not necessarily light but maybe a little more versatile than some light skis when snow is cut up. Look at Faction Royales on sale for a similar profile.

Tried Benchetlers and they were easy to ski in pow and trees. Maybe not as good as Shiros in cut up conditions.

Dunno if I'd want more symmetrical skis like the Opus in really deep pow. For instance, had 4FRNT CRJ's, which had less tip/tail taper, and they had a little pool cover effect. Fun skis but not sure that's what you'd want in waist deep.

IMO, over 120mm is not as versatile as 110-115mm, but that's what I chose for a deeper snow ski after owning Sickles snd CRJs, and trying out a bunch of other skis like S7s, Bents, etc. you will get comments about it being the Indian not the arrow, and it's true, but go ahead and try some new sticks. It's fun to try different skis.
post #5 of 10

I've got the Shiro from a few years ago.  I do like the ski but they are in the "clown shoe" category due full rocker. Easy and fun to ski and very turny since they have a lot of sidecut for their width.  I hear this years model has a flatter tail, which I think would be a good thing.  I've wanted to try the Helldorado as having metal in a ski of this category could be very interesting.  K2 Annex 118 looks sexy as hell too.  Would love to try that one.

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Originally Posted by Dino View Post

For a really deep snow ski, the Shiros would be a safe choice. They have a lot of tip/tail taper and the width to handle deeper snow.

Tried Benchetlers and they were easy to ski in pow and trees. Maybe not as good as Shiros in cut up conditions.

 

 

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I've got the Shiro from a few years ago.  I do like the ski but they are in the "clown shoe" category due full rocker. Easy and fun to ski and very turny since they have a lot of sidecut for their width.  I hear this years model has a flatter tail, which I think would be a good thing.

 

Thanks guys I do appreciate the feedback. I think the Salomon Q115 would be ideal for me, easy to initiate, tight radius, playful, light for touring and a bit of camber underfoot but the Shiros are the only ski on my list that are exactly the right size at 183, Im 5'11" 170. So maybe I should just get the right size instead of going small or large...only 178 and 188 available in the Q115s. I currently ski Volkl Bridges and have been happy with them for most stuff, they just dont surf well @95mm

 

Considering youre both recommending the Shiro, its a good sign, though the clown shoe comment is a bit discouraging haha. I thought there was a bit of camber underfoot on these...Volkls site says Full Rocker but they also say my Bridges are Full Rocker and I know there is camber on them, theyre more of a tip rocker/mustache rocker. 

 

I do like the heavy taper on the Chetlers and would lean more toward the side of "easy to ski in pow and trees" vs "good in cut up conditions" as they will be my fresh track hikers. Chetlers would be slightly big at 185 but not really a huge deal and with the taper theyd probably be fine.

 

Skis like the Blizzard Bodacious are not for me, Im just a little guy and I dont typically need a ski that charges well down icy steeps. Id prefer spring to stability.

 

The Moment Bibby's have specs I like though I dont do much launching anymore, pushing 40 yrs old at this point. Too many choices these days....not sure if any of that clarifies or adds further confusion.

 

Id probably be fine with the Shiros if I can be convinced they ski more nimble than the spec turn radius of 26.4m @183

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If you're leaning towards the Q115, I did notice Evo is selling them at a really nice price right now, the green ones from last year.  One thing about the Salomon Q line are the mounting points are very forward.  I have skied the Q98 and could not dial that ski in.  Obviously a different ski as it is narrower, stiffer and more side cut, but I think the Q105 and Q115 share similar mounts. Just to forward for me.  Not my cup of tea, I guess.

 

I didn't mean anything bad about shiro being a clown shoe.  There are way worse skis in that category.  Some K2's come to mind.  The shiro is equally fun out in the open or in the trees, and even carving groomers.  I love the length and the mount point.  Me I'm 220lbs and ski the 193cm, and am older at 52.  I would buy the shiro again.

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So after taking the time to educate myself, reading reviews and filling out an extensive excel spreadsheet with a dizzying amount of spec info on over 20 skis, top contenders were Moment Exit World, Q BC Lab, Bent Chetlers, Armada JJ 2.0 and Shiros. I realized these will really be my touring ski so why not finally take the dive into AT territory?

 

After all was said and done I placed an order for the 2015 Moment Exit Worlds.

 

They just fit the bill on everything Im looking for:

 

184

140-115-130

Rocker/Camber/Rocker (mustache)

1457 effective edge (25m radius) slightly bigger than Id like but should be fine in open pow fields out west.

Paulownia/Pine/Carbon (light)

Snow shedding top sheet

Skin friendly tips

Easy to initiate, stable, playful and poppy.

 

Not a lot of people skiing Moments here from my searches but I like that theyre made in the US by guys that rip Tahoe, hope I like 'em. More importantly, hope they get a lot of use!

 

Happy New Year everyone.

 

-Tyler

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I own the 2015 Atomic Automatic 117s. They are by far the best ski I've ever been on. If you live on the west coast you can ski that ski everyday. Im 6'1 190 lbs. Theyre awesome in the trees, float awesome awesome in deep powder. I had them in 3' a couple weekends ago. Theyre really easy to turn, really playful but can charge without being overpowered. I'm not sure but I'm guessing the extra 10% stiffness in this years model made them a lot better for chopped up powder and cruddier snow and just charging a little harder. I rip them on the groomers and chopped up powder with complete confidence.I have mine mounted a +1 and love em in 186. Anyways can't say enough about this ski. Never been happier with a ski purchase in my life.

post #10 of 10

I got my 2011 Shiro's this past March from skiessentials.com, new in the wrapper $250 shipped. Skied them in the wet spring snow at Okemo and Killington. they were great, didn't get pushed around, easy to turn, quick edge to edge and great edge hold when it hadn't warmed up yet. I can't believe how they fit great into my Volkl quiver. I can go from my Kendo's to them with no real difference in feel. 

 

They were easy in the big spring bumps and would hold an edge on Superstar at high speed when it was still frozen.

 

I'll be on the Shiro's this coming Sunday, the forecast is for 3-6" of wet heavy snow ending in rain and 40F. Skiing them is like cheating, the lifty's love them when I ski up on them here at Okemo.

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