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Blizzard Black Pearl vs. Cheyenne

post #1 of 19
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Hihi! As the title says, kind of caught in prolonged indecision between the Black Pearl and Cheyenne. I'm 5' 10", 142lbs., and beginner to intermediate skills wise... but I love speed on-piste and playfulness and maneuverability in trees... Need something that will be good in trees and just general on-piste use in New England, and obviously something that will help me improve faster. I tried both skis and adored them... so I'm having trouble deciding. Any thoughts?

post #2 of 19
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Originally Posted by Rue Roberts View Post
 


Hihi! As the title says, kind of caught in prolonged indecision between the Black Pearl and Cheyenne. I'm 5' 10", 142lbs., and beginner to intermediate skills wise... but I love speed on-piste and playfulness and maneuverability in trees... Need something that will be good in trees and just general on-piste use in New England, and obviously something that will help me improve faster. I tried both skis and adored them... so I'm having trouble deciding. Any thoughts?

Both then! ;)

 

The Cheyenne will be better to help you learn, the Pearl will be better off piste. If you are going to be adding a powder/big ski, go with they Cheyenne. If this is going to be a ONE ski quiver, go with the Black Pearl

post #3 of 19
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
 

Both then! ;)

 

The Cheyenne will be better to help you learn, the Pearl will be better off piste. If you are going to be adding a powder/big ski, go with they Cheyenne. If this is going to be a ONE ski quiver, go with the Black Pearl


Enabler alert! I speak from experience :o

post #4 of 19
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Enabler? Sorry? :s

post #5 of 19
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If you are going to be adding a powder/big ski, go with they Cheyenne. If this is going to be a ONE ski quiver, go with the Black Pearl

/thread
post #6 of 19
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Oh I get it. Sorry lol.....

Emm well still... didn't really help me much. I don't see the point of getting both when they're so similar and basically more or less the same... So I still have to choose... and I don't know whether I'll be adding another powder ski anytime soon... so that while helpful isn't quite /thread-worthy yet either...

post #7 of 19
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Originally Posted by Rue Roberts View Post


Hihi! As the title says, kind of caught in prolonged indecision between the Black Pearl and Cheyenne. I'm 5' 10", 142lbs., and beginner to intermediate skills wise... but I love speed on-piste and playfulness and maneuverability in trees... Need something that will be good in trees and just general on-piste use in New England, and obviously something that will help me improve faster. I tried both skis and adored them... so I'm having trouble deciding. Any thoughts?

Cheyenne
post #8 of 19
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Why?

post #9 of 19
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Originally Posted by Rue Roberts View Post

Why?

See the bolded text above that I quoted from your original post. New England on-trail skiing suggests the narrower ski because like it or not you will be on hard, packed snow more than you will be skiing soft bumps and trees.
post #10 of 19

^^^^^ true 'dat.

post #11 of 19
Thread Starter 

Ok... they're saying the same thing over at Ski Diva so alright. Feel fairly confident with that decision. What do you think of the K2 MissDemeanor to go with it as more of a park/powder ski? Do you think that would be a decent two-ski quiver?

post #12 of 19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rue Roberts View Post
 


Hihi! As the title says, kind of caught in prolonged indecision between the Black Pearl and Cheyenne. I'm 5' 10", 142lbs., and beginner to intermediate skills wise... but I love speed on-piste and playfulness and maneuverability in trees... Need something that will be good in trees and just general on-piste use in New England, and obviously something that will help me improve faster. I tried both skis and adored them... so I'm having trouble deciding. Any thoughts?

Both then! ;)

 

The Cheyenne will be better to help you learn, the Pearl will be better off piste. If you are going to be adding a powder/big ski, go with they Cheyenne. If this is going to be a ONE ski quiver, go with the Black Pearl

 

 

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Originally Posted by Rue Roberts View Post
 

Oh I get it. Sorry lol.....

Emm well still... didn't really help me much. I don't see the point of getting both when they're so similar and basically more or less the same... So I still have to choose... and I don't know whether I'll be adding another powder ski anytime soon... so that while helpful isn't quite /thread-worthy yet either...

The "Both Then" comment was meant to be in jest, hence the ;). I then answered it with a choice depending on how you wanted to set up your quiver, just with one ski, the Black Pearl or of you were going to add a big ski, the Cheyenne. I thought I was being pretty helpful. 

post #13 of 19
Thread Starter 

Yes thnx.. sorry I was just a little miffed you threw me into indecision again lol...

So if I got the Cheyenne aiming for a two-ski quiver, would the K2 MissDemeanor be a good complement (powder/park)?

post #14 of 19
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Originally Posted by Rue Roberts View Post
 

Yes thnx.. sorry I was just a little miffed you threw me into indecision again lol...

So if I got the Cheyenne aiming for a two-ski quiver, would the K2 MissDemeanor be a good complement (powder/park)?

 

Thats a fine complement as would most softer early rise tip & tail 100ish ski. Did you see these, 2015 Sheeva's? They would be a fine compliment too. 

post #15 of 19

Rue - would you have the opportunity to test / rent the Cheyenne and the Black Pearl (or the K2 if it's also now under consideration)? I would strongly recommend if you can before making any decisions. I have the Black Pearl in a 166, but I'm different height/weight and ability level than you are - so, I can't say they would be your best pick (confidently). I can say they are exactly as advertised - hold an edge well, decent float in extra soft stuff, stable on crud and at higher speeds (40 mph +/-) and a nice all-around ski. 

post #16 of 19
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Well I found the K2 Misdemeanor cheaply enough that I don't care about demoing first, and yes, I have demoed the Black Pearl and Cheyenne in 166 and 163 respectively and loved them both!! The Cheyenne slightly more... but I'm not sure they will be good enough for tree skiing? 

post #17 of 19

I have the Black Pearls from a few years ago and want to replace the Viva 7.6 from about 5 years ago.  East coast hard snow mostly for me, unfortunately.  How does the Cheyenne compare to the older 7.6?  They have become a bit noodley for me.

 

Thanks.  

 

Jane

post #18 of 19

If you're looking for a direct replacement for your Viva 7.6 I would look at the Viva 770ti or the

Viva 810.  These skis will serve you better as groomer specific skis for firmer conditions.  The

770ti is a very comparable ski to the 7.6 with just an updated sidecut.  The 810 would be one

step up and has a little more metal and wood that the 770 but it isn't overly stiff. 

post #19 of 19

What's the difference between 2013-14 Viva 7.70 ti and this year's model?

The shop rep told me they were redesigned this year.

 

Thanks.

 

Jane

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