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Salomon XPro 120 Forward Lean

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 

Is there a way to adjust the forward lean in the Salomon XPro 120  Boots? They are too upright for my liking.

 

Thanks

Ron

post #2 of 15

add a thin shim behind the upper cuff.     you can bolt it into the cuff if you like the way it skis.

post #3 of 15
What circumference is your calf at the top of the liner?
post #4 of 15
Thread Starter 

Calf at top of the liner is 14 inches

calf at top of the back of the boot is 13 inches.

post #5 of 15

meant to ask also, what size boots?

 

mike

post #6 of 15
Thread Starter 

26.5

post #7 of 15
Are you racing and wanting to get into a lower tuck---If so add a spoiler to push your knees forward.

If you are not racing and want to unload your quads you could try adding a small heel lift between the liner and shell in the bottom of the boot, this will move some load forward on your feet and help with your fore/ aft balance and eliminate needing to change the forward lean of the boot shell. This boot comes from the factory with about the right amount of forward lean for your calf size.

good luck and Happy New Year

mike
post #8 of 15
Thread Starter 

Mike;

 

Thanks for getting back to me.  No I am not a racer.  Here is what is happening to me. I have only tired the boots once and the conditions really sucked.  I kept getting kicked back onto the tail of the skis.  I experienced the same thing with a pair for Full Tilt boots I tried last year.  With my old retired Nordica's and a pair of Technica Cochise I do not experience this issue.  You can tell by looking at the Salomon and the Technica,  that the Technica has more forward lean.  I really like the Technica's but the toe box is just to small and my toes freeze even in the warmer weather.  I have had the toe box blown out several times but there still is not enough room.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

Thanks

 

Ron

post #9 of 15

Your "center of mass position" is affected by the forward lean of the boot shell, the boot board angle, the delta angle of the binding and your calf size----this Salomon should be just about right for your calf size but you may need to move your knees forward slightly.

 

It turns out that  5 layers of Duck tape will measure 1mm in thickness, make up about 3 (4" X 2" x 5 layer pieces) for each boot and stick them on the out side of your boots around the cuff, inside your pant leg, this way you will have them with you when you need them.

 

When you ski next----as you ski add 1 piece of the 1mm thick "spoilers" between your liner and the shell (stick them to the shell) to push you knees forward in 1mm increments.

 

When you hit the right spot you will know it and you won't be thrown off balance as much, do this slowly over time (several runs each added layer) so that you can get used to each new position.  

 

mike

post #10 of 15
Thread Starter 


Mike:

 

I made the shims and will test it out this coming weekend and report back.

 

Thanks

 

Ron

post #11 of 15
Thread Starter 

Mike

 

I finally got out and tried the boots.  Much better with the shims.  I did not get kicked back at all.  BUT the skis seam harder to roll over on edge and feel much more fatiguing to ride.  I noticed my quads we sore at the end of the day.  I don't feel that with the Technica boots.

 

I re-read the post and saw your comment about the heel lift.  Should I try that or do you have other ideas?

 

Many Thanks Again

Ron

post #12 of 15
Thread Starter 

Mike

 

I finally got out and tried the boots.  Much better with the shims.  I did not get kicked back at all.  BUT the skis seam harder to get on edge and feel much more fatiguing to ride.  I noticed my quads we sore at the end of the day.  I don't feel that with the Technica boots.

post #13 of 15

Hi again,

 

Sounds like things are moving in the right direction.

 

Have you tried adding a heel lift (1/4 inch) this will affect your balance and the loading of your quads.

 

and could be easily removed if you don't feel it helps---add it to the boot board under the liner--- stick them in place with some duck tape

 

Over loaded, fatigued quads indicate a fore aft balance issue.

 

How many shims did you add between the liner and shell?

 

mike

post #14 of 15
Thread Starter 

Mike:

 

I had a roll of neoprene that was about .080 Thick  I used 3 pieces in each boot. Just over 1/4.  Even with all that they slid down about 3/8 of an inch below the top rear edge.

 

I will try the heel lift next.  I use to have some laying around I will see if I can find them.

 

Another question if you don't mind.  Salomon makes a big deal about the over sized hinge.  As I played with the boots (on my feet in the skis on the living room floor,  I noticed the boot did not bend at the hinge the plastic just flexed so what is the big deal with the size of the hinge?

 

I never paid any attention to this stuff.

 

Thanks again!

 

Ron

post #15 of 15

With the back of the upper shell bolted to the lower clog the boot has no need for hinges and the shell flexes to allow you

to move fore/aft over the boot sole, which adds rebound to the boot.  the hinges look nice, don't you think?

 

We use duck tape to change the forward lean of the leg, it sticks in place and works well.

 

good luck with the heel lift---should work.

 

mike

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