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Wonky binding question

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Assume that I like the FKS14 binding angle (or how it places my boot sole). Would it be that big of a difference using a set of Griffon demos? I can't remember the technical jargon for this difference, binding delta? Or something like that. How different are FKS14's and Griffons. The 14s don't have any toe riser plates or whatever - just what came in the box from Rossignol

Thx
post #2 of 14
FKS. More elasticity in the system, 180 degree toe release, heel that rotates with the toe during release. Three points of contact on the heel of the boot. Less 'influence' on ski flex. Easy to open and close heel piece when 'de-garage saling' in soft snow.

That said, the markers work fine as well, just not as much of 'yeah, I like that' for me, but I'm not you. smile.gif I prefer the FKS, but wouldn't have any trouble mounting a griffon on a ski.
post #3 of 14
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All my others have FKS (super 7, cochise, enforcers) - and the would be my choice but thought the demo nature of the griffons might hold some appeal rather than drilling one and not liking it ie can play with mounting point pretty easily. So, mostly it was about how the binding delta (or whatever that is called) compares between the two and if it would be "noticeable" to a beater like myself.
post #4 of 14

Marker Royalty bindings have very little delta, Rossi bindings have much more delta. If you are sensitive to this sort of thing then you will definitely feel it, if you are not sensitive to it... you won't. Hard sayin' not knowin'.

post #5 of 14
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post

Marker Royalty bindings have very little delta, Rossi bindings have much more delta. If you are sensitive to this sort of thing then you will definitely feel it, if you are not sensitive to it... you won't. Hard sayin' not knowin'.

^ exactly what I was looking for - thanks
post #6 of 14
Personally I'd do an Attack series binding before the Markers.
post #7 of 14
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Originally Posted by givethepigeye View Post

Assume that I like the FKS14 binding angle (or how it places my boot sole). Would it be that big of a difference using a set of Griffon demos? I can't remember the technical jargon for this difference, binding delta? Or something like that. How different are FKS14's and Griffons. The 14s don't have any toe riser plates or whatever - just what came in the box from Rossignol

Thx


Yeah, it's called delta. Just take a caliper and measure the height of the toe and the height of the heel. I think the FKS is about 4mm down at the toe and the Griffon is only about 1mm down at the toe, but measure to be sure. Then when you mount the Jester you can out a 3mm shim and appropriate length screws in.

post #8 of 14
Mount the demo bindings, experiment to find your sweet spot and remount with the bindings you like best. Sacrilege to drill extra holes but the ski probably won't care and you will have exactly what is best for you. Plus you can use the bindings on your next ski you are assessing where to place the bindings.
Eric
post #9 of 14

You can also do a search for "binding ramp angle"  you may find more info

post #10 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thanks all - appears that the FKS14 is "low ramp" according to their marketing material 0.5 degrees.
post #11 of 14
It is quite low. From my own eyeball observations, maybe a couple mils at most. Easy enough to shim the toe.
post #12 of 14
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post

It is quite low. From my own eyeball observations, maybe a couple mils at most. Easy enough to shim the toe.

Just trying to think through options IF I can't get my FKS w/ 115 brakes on a 121 ski. I think I can as I have 90's on 98s. Wanted to see if I had to buy another binding is the griffon demos would be that much different in terms of binding delta w/ added adjustability too.
post #13 of 14
More than delta- the FKS is a burly clamp & demos are....ehhhh squirmy

You should have no issues w a few mm of brake bending.
post #14 of 14
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Originally Posted by givethepigeye View Post

Just trying to think through options IF I can't get my FKS w/ 115 brakes on a 121 ski. I think I can as I have 90's on 98s. Wanted to see if I had to buy another binding is the griffon demos would be that much different in terms of binding delta w/ added adjustability too.

Shouldn't be a big deal. The Rossi brakes run wide and can generally go up to a full cm wider. I have 115's on a 118. 3 more mils wouldn't be a big deal.
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