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post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
Hi all. I'm looking for a new set of all mountain skis and am looking for some input. I'm a big dude (6'4", 275) and an intermediate-advanced skier (~7 out of 10, 10 being expert). Currently live in the Midwest but spend quite a bit of time in Montana and Utah as well, so I'm looking for something that will handle many different types of conditions at least adequately. I recently demoed Atomic Alibis (187cm) up in northern MN and liked them but didn't love them (specifically felt they lacked stability at speed). I've also looked into Volkl Mantras (184/191), Atomic Rituals (190), Rossignol Soul 7 188). I unfortunately haven't been able to demo any of these, so any input or other suggestions would be much appreciated.
post #2 of 22

Out of that list my first guess would be the Mantra. I didn't find the Rituals especially stable at speed in variable snow, and I haven't tried the Soul 7, but a local shop suggested they would be less than idea for a man of my obvious physical 'prowess' (but I'm a mere 240 lbs).

 

When in doubt I usually find that a wood core, vertical sidewalls and 2 sheets of metal is a good starting point for a ski for a bigger fellow (there are exceptions of course).  I haven't skied them myself but the Bonafide seems well loved and the E98 is often discussed and compared vs. the Mantra.  

 

-Bruce

post #3 of 22

All good points made by CanmoreBruce. If you ski more out West, the Blizzard Cochise might also be an option. Not sure if the 13/14 version would be better (they did soften them a bit for this year). Do you expect to ski more hard snow or are you more powder/crud oriented? That might influence you options also.

post #4 of 22
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Originally Posted by Twins51 View Post

Hi all. I'm looking for a new set of all mountain skis and am looking for some input. I'm a big dude (6'4", 275) and an intermediate-advanced skier (~7 out of 10, 10 being expert). Currently live in the Midwest but spend quite a bit of time in Montana and Utah as well, so I'm looking for something that will handle many different types of conditions at least adequately. I recently demoed Atomic Alibis (187cm) up in northern MN and liked them but didn't love them (specifically felt they lacked stability at speed). I've also looked into Volkl Mantras (184/191), Atomic Rituals (190), Rossignol Soul 7 188). I unfortunately haven't been able to demo any of these, so any input or other suggestions would be much appreciated.

 

Most of your other ideas sound good, though I would lean toward Mantras, Bonafides, skis of that nature.  Meaning:

 

-two sheets of metal

-mid 90s underfoot to mid 100s

-a rocker/camber mix

 

I think the Cochise is a great ski, but maybe not the best choice for still skiing a measurable amount of time in the Midwest.  You will only be making like 3 turns with the Cochise and Midwestern vertical drop :) 

 

I would also stay away from the Soul 7 if you consider stability at speed a priority in what you want for ski performance.

post #5 of 22

I am 6'4" and 250 lbs. The most versatile ski I know and own is the Ski Logik Ullr's Charriot.  It is 101 mm under foot. I suggest the 188 length. I happen to own the 178 length, but for someone our size, the 188 is better. It will ski well in any condition. It skis like a wide slalom ski. Quick turning, can do GS turns also, handles speed. It is similar to the mantra with a shorter turning radius. It can handle a lot of weight and the side walls are very solid so the edge hold is outstanding. You do notice the width, which feels good in soft now and not as good on ice, but it is what it is. I have demo'd the Blizzard Brahma and  liked those a lot as well.

post #6 of 22
Thread Starter 

Thanks for all the replies everyone. Anyone have any experience on the Nordica NRGy 100s? It seems like those, the Mantras, and the Bonafides are my top options. I've skied the Mantras and have read all the rave reviews on the Bones, but the NRGys don't have nearly as much info/reviews out there and I'm curious about them. 

post #7 of 22
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Cheizz View Post
 

All good points made by CanmoreBruce. If you ski more out West, the Blizzard Cochise might also be an option. Not sure if the 13/14 version would be better (they did soften them a bit for this year). Do you expect to ski more hard snow or are you more powder/crud oriented? That might influence you options also.

Definitely more powder/crud oriented, which is why I'm mostly targeting skis ~100mm underfoot.

post #8 of 22
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by bttocs View Post
 

I am 6'4" and 250 lbs. The most versatile ski I know and own is the Ski Logik Ullr's Charriot.  It is 101 mm under foot. I suggest the 188 length. I happen to own the 178 length, but for someone our size, the 188 is better. It will ski well in any condition. It skis like a wide slalom ski. Quick turning, can do GS turns also, handles speed. It is similar to the mantra with a shorter turning radius. It can handle a lot of weight and the side walls are very solid so the edge hold is outstanding. You do notice the width, which feels good in soft now and not as good on ice, but it is what it is. I have demo'd the Blizzard Brahma and  liked those a lot as well.

This is intriguing. You know of anywhere you can demo Ski Logiks in big lengths? I've always had trouble finding indie brand demos in the lengths I need.

post #9 of 22
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Twins51 View Post
 

Thanks for all the replies everyone. Anyone have any experience on the Nordica NRGy 100s? It seems like those, the Mantras, and the Bonafides are my top options. I've skied the Mantras and have read all the rave reviews on the Bones, but the NRGys don't have nearly as much info/reviews out there and I'm curious about them. 

I'll add the Experience 100s to this list as well

post #10 of 22

2016 Head Monster 98.  Two sheets of metal is the selling point for these.

post #11 of 22

After coming back from an 18 year hiatus intermediate level skier and 6'4 ~220# I've skied the 12/13 Mantras 2 years now. They have to be skied aggressively buy they were great. A bit heavy but reacted well. Felt stable on them even though my technique was clearly way off balance. I wasn't skiing properly however was able to get on bumps and steep blacks without killing myself or bombing down the mountain. I'm looking to buy now so I'm demoing quite a few skis over the next two weeks so I'll report back some findings for a good all mountain as I'm looking for the same. I like a 50/50 ski and I usually ski on a 188+

 

I have on the books to try:

 

Rossi Experience 88

Rossi Soul 7 (hoping for pow)

Volkl 15' Mantra

Dynastar Powertrack 84 (new this year)

Dynastar Cham 97 HM

Rossi Sin 7

 

I'll report back in a week or two.

post #12 of 22
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Originally Posted by bnapilot View Post

After coming back from an 18 year hiatus intermediate level skier and 6'4 ~220# I've skied the 12/13 Mantras 2 years now. They have to be skied aggressively buy they were great. A bit heavy but reacted well. Felt stable on them even though my technique was clearly way off balance. I wasn't skiing properly however was able to get on bumps and steep blacks without killing myself or bombing down the mountain. I'm looking to buy now so I'm demoing quite a few skis over the next two weeks so I'll report back some findings for a good all mountain as I'm looking for the same. I like a 50/50 ski and I usually ski on a 188+

I have on the books to try:

Rossi Experience 88
Rossi Soul 7 (hoping for pow)
Volkl 15' Mantra
Dynastar Powertrack 84 (new this year)
Dynastar Cham 97 HM
Rossi Sin 7

I'll report back ina a week or two.

Remove the Dynastar Powertrack 84, too soft for your size, and substitute the 89.
Add the new Head Monster 98, although this may be difficult to demo yet.
post #13 of 22

Great tips thanks! I presume the Monster replaces the Rev series?

post #14 of 22
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Originally Posted by bnapilot View Post

Great tips thanks! I presume the Monster replaces the Rev series?

Hard to say really. The Rev series went away and Head brought back the Monsters but also added the Instinct series which is a bit odd with only one model longer than 177.
post #15 of 22

Check out the Black Diamond Zealot & Verdict as well. Light, but have a metal later in and are burly without a huge weight penalty. 

post #16 of 22
How about Salomon rocker 2 100 or rossi super 7? Both of these skis rip. I'm 6' 235lbs and they were great for lake Louise and sunshine village. Go anywhere type ski, hard chargeing, glades for days. Especially great on the runs called "think again" and ”eagles nest” on goats eye.
post #17 of 22
Thread Starter 
Just got back from a long weekend at Canyons/Deer Valley. Had a chance to demo a couple of skis. Day one I was on 191cm 2015 Mantras. Great ski, stability is phenomenal, but that is A LOT of ski, and quite frankly I think it's too much ski for me to use as an everyday ski both in the Midwest and the Rockies. Had a hard time in moguls and trees with them, just couldn't turn them as quickly as I'd like. That, combined with the conditions being less than ideal for this type of ski (upper 40s, very sunny during the day and cold overnight, so extreme hardpack in the morning and slush by late afternoon), led me to trade them in after day 1 in favor of Rev Pro 80s in 184 (was hoping for something a bit fatter, but no luck at my desired lengths). These were pretty ideally suited to the conditions this weekend - great on hardpack, quick turning through moguls - but probably not something I'd buy as the stability in the late day slush/crud was somewhat lacking. All that said, I'm kind of back to the drawing board in terms of what to buy. I'm now thinking something 90ish underfoot in the 185-189 range, but won't have a chance to get out and ski again this season. I know I want to look into the Brahmas, Experience 88s, NRGy 90s, and probably Kendos. Anyone have any other recommendations?
post #18 of 22
Dynastar Powertrack 89
post #19 of 22

Well I also had 2 weeks in the Rockies last week with snow every day and 5 great 6+" powder days.

 

Here's what I had to demo (6'4" @ ~215#) 

 

Dynastar Cham 97 - 184 - It was great off piste in powder but... Overall I did not like, chattered too much on groomed and just an odd feeling under foot if you spend any time on groomed terrain at all.

Rossi Experience 88 - 188 - Great stability on groomed terrain, off piste, trees and moguls were just too hard to turn quickly. If there's no new snow, I'll choose this ski.

Rossi Soul 7 - 188 - I'd ski this every day if I could. Unreal in powder, fairly quick in moguls and trees thanks to the air tips and tail. Didn't chatter too much on groomed. This will be my go to ski every trip if theres just a dusting of new snow. After I skied this, I was so happy with it due to conditions I didn't demo anything else.

post #20 of 22

The 188cm Rossi Soul 7, under the command of a 6'4" 215lber, didn't chatter too much on groom…..interesting. 

 

Give the Salomon QLab a look. Certainly a better ski than anything in Rossi's stable. 

post #21 of 22


I just spent 10 days in CO with my Rossi E100's. 4 days of powder, from 4 to 16", fresh then cut up and crud, re-frozen groomers and then sun softened snow in the afternoons. They make long turns, short turns, eliminate push piles and crud, turn easily in powder (although they were IN the deep stuff, not on top) don't have a speed limit and don't disappoint in any conditions I found. Carve them, slarve them, ski them however you want. They are serious and fun at the same time and I don't think they are demanding at all. They have my vote for a single quiver, all mountain ski. I think I am going to marry these skis!

They have to be the sleeper ski of the year, and at 1/2 the price of some of them out there. They replaced my E98's and I sold my Soul 7's to a friend after the 5th day on the 100's. I say give them a try.


Edited by JW MN - 3/11/15 at 8:09pm
post #22 of 22

I am 6'2 240 and had last years Mantra and Kendo and now a current Rossi 84 for east coast. Great ski and does everything great! 

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