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Tried on some new boots today, your thoughts on a couple I have in mind.

post #1 of 20
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In my quest for new skis I of course need new boots. Like my old skis I am in old boots. I cant believe how comfy boots are made today. Wow! what  difference vs 20yrs ago lol. How light and comfy :)

But of course expensive :(

But whats cheap today? eventually gonna cost us 5 bucks just to wake up in the morning. lol but not really funny.

 

Anyway I (with the store rep) tried 4 pairs. The two I like best are the Salomon questpro 110 and the next is the rossi alias120.

The other two was another rossi and also a lang but cant remember the exact models and weeded them out since the first two were favored so it doesn't matter..

 

Anyway I didn't get to try the alias in a 100 flex because they didn't have one. Thouth the lang I tried was a 100 and it felt too flexible to me and not as comfy fit.

 

The salomon QP 110 is 499 and the alias 120 is 399. The flex feels similar on both and the rep said the rossis do run a tad softer than rated so it made sense.  If money was not a factor the Salomon QP would be my choice if I had to make one but not buy a landslide. The rossi alias120 felt real good. Just not quite that extra little bit of better good I felt with the Sal's.  I wuld like to try on the rossis in the 100 just to feel if its too flexy or not. I am 6"1" and 240. I'm no double black expert at all and at 50 I don't get as daring as I once was either but I ski very well and sometimes still drive hard and can flex a boot pretty hard especially when I drive and at my height and weigth.

the alias 100 would be 299. Pretty sweat unles of course its too soft.

 

Anyway anyone have the Alias120 or 100 and/or the salQP120?? what can you offer about them or have you skied both or perhaps something else.

Thanks

post #2 of 20
$100 is not a lot of money over the life of the boot. Get what fits your foot and your size and weight. Buying another boot because the new boot you bought does not work us a lot more expensive. Good luck..
post #3 of 20

I weigh 160 lbs and find the 100 flex Salomon boots I own too flexy.  My other boots are too stiff, unless I'm skiing very fast, but I prefer them to the Salomons, even when I'm skiing slowly.

 

Like Alexzn said, $100 over the life of the boot is not a lot of money.  It should feel tight in the store; if it's too comfy right off the bat, it will be too lose once you have it broke in.  If you are lucky, it will fit right off the bat, most people, will have to go back after skiing the boot to get the fit tweaked (toe box punched out, hot spots fixed, etc.).


Edited by Ghost - 12/22/14 at 6:00am
post #4 of 20

at your size, even if you cruise a lot, you want at least a 110 flex. Beyond that, agree with Ghost. Get the boot that fits. You'll have it a while, with luck. 

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I weigh 160 lbs and find the 100 flex Salomon boots I own too flexy.  My other boots are too stiff, unless I'm skiing very fast, but I prefer them to the Salomons, even when I'm skiing slowly.

 

Like Alexzn said, $100 over the life of the boot is not a lot of money.  It should feel tight in the store; if it's too comfy right off the bat, it will be too lose once you have it broke in.  If you are lucky, it will fit right off the bat, most people, will have to go back after skiing the boot to get the fit tweaked (toe box punched hot, hot spots fixed, etc.).

Thanks for the post.

Thanks to all for your posts/thoughts.

 

When I said how very comfy they are vs my old boots I didn't mean they weren't a very snug fit.  Its just that they're so very different from two decades ago. lol

I've always worn snugly fit footwear for anything I done/do athletically. I always bought my hockey skates in a smaller size just for that same reason. All the boots I tried were very snug. If it were just a pair of sneakers I would have had to get the next larger size so he (the rep) had me in the correct boot size length and width wise. Any smaller and it would have been far too cramped.   They were just cramp enough where after some "wear-in" time they should then still be snug yet very comfy. 

 

Hey, $100 bucks is what it is. Combine the boots with new skis and bindings and its quite an expensive thing. I'm certainly not going to take a boot that's not the correct sizes and flex in order to save the money as that would be a waste of money all together.  But when it comes to slightly liking one a tad more vs another that was cheaper which I still liked, I do have to decide whats worth it.

 

While I do like to do "some" harder charging skiing I am not 25 anymore and just don't do a whole lot of that anymore. In fact I turn 50 today :) or should I say :(   time goes by way too friggin fast.

 

But anyway I know even if not as aggressive as often as i use to be but with my size and weight and still do some aggressive skiing I'm going to have to stay on the stiffer flex side of things and with good quality so getting boots certainly never going to be a cheap financial experience. And I do know that I will have them for at least several years. But hey, money is tight and i dont have a lot of disposable income so i do have to careful and sometimes its about what I need vs what i want. As long as its a good and "correct" option , it doesnt necessarily have to be the best one to my liking. I would like to get back to the shop and retry them as well as add a couple other possibilities to the mix.

post #6 of 20

50 is the new 30  :)

post #7 of 20
6'1" 240...you need to be in a at least a 110 flex. you have a large level that you are attaching those boots to. I would say a 120 would be fine too.

You need to find a boot fitter like most of us who know the process. Don't just buy boots off the rack. Different boots fit different feet.

Oh, Ghost, 60 is the new 40...smile.gif

When I was 20, 60 looked old, 40 years later, 60 is not that old.
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50 is the new 30  :)


I tried that with my cousin..I said "40 is the new 20, right".  He said "40 is 40, straight up."  Haha!  Ooh, I think I broke a rib laughing..sigh.. :(

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6'1" 240...you need to be in a at least a 110 flex. you have a large level that you are attaching those boots to. I would say a 120 would be fine too.

You need to find a boot fitter like most of us who know the process. Don't just buy boots off the rack. Different boots fit different feet.

Oh, Ghost, 60 is the new 40...smile.gif

When I was 20, 60 looked old, 40 years later, 60 is not that old.

well I hope to get back to 220 like I did a couple years back.  But really still anthing over 200 is heavy on boots flex I know unless one really just cruises easily on moderate terrain most the time.  But I ski harder than that often enough so yea and that's why the rossi 120's are what we tried on too and solid fit.   I don't know the prosess of finding a fitter and/or how that comes in financially but this fellow at the local shop (ski barn) seemed to know boots info and fit pretty well. Just from the way he was talking and explaining. In the end I want something that's going to work well enough. I'm not skiing 50 days a year nor charging down bumpy double blacks all day and  I'm not Bode Miller or one of the Mahre brothers lol. If the boots fit me snug well and offer good support, and don't hurt I should be fine as long as there is no big flaw or big negative about them. Does anyone have anything good or poor to say (offer) about the rossi alias or the salomon questpro? Or another suggestion to try. Do either of those boots not do something well enough?

 

ISomething funny (or sad) as we age.

when at some point probably around 30plus teenagers start calling you "sir" for the first time and it feels strange to be called that when it first happens. Then you get use to it and of course naturally happens a little more and more as time goes by. But then when people in there 30's start calling you sir you know your getting up there LOL

post #10 of 20
Save $$ on skis, spend them on boots.
post #11 of 20
X2^

A good boot fitter well, inspect the shoes you wear everyday, to see where the wear points are. Then check your feet and lower legs. He'll ask you about your sking and what you want to do with your skiing. Then recommend a few boots.

As I said, different boots fit different feet. Good fitting boots can take you much further then new skis.
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Save $$ on skis, spend them on boots.

So, then I should stay skiing on my old straight GS skis from the days before shaped skis even began? I'm getting tired of being the only one on the lift lines still using them.lol

There was a time even a few years ago when I'd see just enough of them to still fit in, but not anymore. Now I'm lucky to see even one other pair.

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X2^

A good boot fitter well, inspect the shoes you wear everyday, to see where the wear points are. Then check your feet and lower legs. He'll ask you about your sking and what you want to do with your skiing. Then recommend a few boots.

As I said, different boots fit different feet. Good fitting boots can take you much further then new skis.

 

I wouldn't deny the importance of it but again (and this is not saying it holds no value) but well enough yet not perfect I assume will be fine vs my old heavy "concrete shoes" of the past. I can just feel the improvement already just from trying them on. But I take the advice well and will look into it further as I do with most anything before pulling triggers.

post #13 of 20
skiessientials.com check them out for last years skis. I have bough 3 pair, a shell and bindings from them since March.

Do you also need clothing ? Check out campmor.com and seiriatradingpost.com they both have there own brands of base layers they are great and cheap, I've been wearing there stuff for over 20 years. Some of it I have been wearing for 20 years too.
post #14 of 20

Did the salesperson you dealt with do a shell fit to determine the correct size?  Shell fit is pull out  the liner and you insert your bare foot into the shell, then the gap behind your heel is measured.  If he/she didn't, then either, they don't know how to fit a boot or they don't care about fitting you properly.  Did they tell you the shell on the Salomon boots is heat moldable?

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Did the salesperson you dealt with do a shell fit to determine the correct size?  Shell fit is pull out  the liner and you insert your bare foot into the shell, then the gap behind your heel is measured.  If he/she didn't, then either, they don't know how to fit a boot or they don't care about fitting you properly.  Did they tell you the shell on the Salomon boots is heat moldable?

 

I do know abut the shell fit but no he didn't do that. I guess he just knew more about each boot than the actual true fitting itself. but yes he did say the Salomon would be heat molded and they would do that.  there is a shop about an hour away that does in-depth boot fitting. I'm gonna call them and see if I can mange the time to get to them. But I do worry he'll want to put me in a 600 dollar boot and That's something I cant afford. 5 was pushing it to begin with. But i'll see what he has to say over the phone about the whole thing. Cant hurt to call him.

post #16 of 20

Ask if he has any last years boots that might fit you. Tell him money is a object.

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I do know abut the shell fit but no he didn't do that. I guess he just knew more about each boot than the actual true fitting itself. but yes he did say the Salomon would be heat molded and they would do that.  there is a shop about an hour away that does in-depth boot fitting. I'm gonna call them and see if I can mange the time to get to them. But I do worry he'll want to put me in a 600 dollar boot and That's something I cant afford. 5 was pushing it to begin with. But i'll see what he has to say over the phone about the whole thing. Cant hurt to call him.


Make sure you do get a shell fit. Comfy boots without a shell fit are more than likely comfy because they are too big.

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Ask if he has any last years boots that might fit you. Tell him money is a object.


Thanks Max, he did have a pair from last year (I forget which exact model) and they were 100 off but I didn't care for the fit and feel of them. The Salomon QP110 were 500 and the Rossi Alias120 were 400 which is about what I see everywhere. I think either way I'm going to be at either 400 or 500. Going to try to manage a trip to the other shop and between that and/or possibly back at the same shop will try a few more boots. I want to try to make a demo day in a couple of weeks and would like to be in new boots for it so I have to try my best to squeeze in as much boot stuff as I can manage between all the holidays hustle and bustle but that's not easy. If I cant manage to get it done "perfect" as possible than I think since it wont be "perfect" anyway i'll probably get those rossi120's. But we'll see what happens between now and then.

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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post
 

Did the salesperson you dealt with do a shell fit to determine the correct size?  Shell fit is pull out  the liner and you insert your bare foot into the shell, then the gap behind your heel is measured.  If he/she didn't, then either, they don't know how to fit a boot or they don't care about fitting you properly.  Did they tell you the shell on the Salomon boots is heat moldable?

 

I do know abut the shell fit but no he didn't do that. I guess he just knew more about each boot than the actual true fitting itself. but yes he did say the Salomon would be heat molded and they would do that.  there is a shop about an hour away that does in-depth boot fitting. I'm gonna call them and see if I can mange the time to get to them. But I do worry he'll want to put me in a 600 dollar boot and That's something I cant afford. 5 was pushing it to begin with. But i'll see what he has to say over the phone about the whole thing. Cant hurt to call him.


Maybe he can tell how big your feet are by having you stand on a Branock device and knows how big his boots are.  It is possible, though unlikely, he can tell how big your feet are by looking at them.  I would be suspect if he didn't measure your feet somehow before having you try some on.  Going by how they feel to you is good to compliment a measurement, not a replacement for same.

 

I knew a machinist once who could size nuts and bolts just by looking at them in his hand. 

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Maybe he can tell how big your feet are by having you stand on a Branock device and knows how big his boots are.  It is possible, though unlikely, he can tell how big your feet are by looking at them.  I would be suspect if he didn't measure your feet somehow before having you try some on.  Going by how they feel to you is good to compliment a measurement, not a replacement for same.

 

I knew a machinist once who could size nuts and bolts just by looking at them in his hand. 

Oh, he measured my feet both ways. He just didn't have me stand in an empty boot. He imo brought out the correct size. None of them were loose. They were all well snuged and even barely cramp but at the same time comfy vs my very old boots. My toes were firmly up against the fronts and then when I leaned forward would settle away nicly but still snug and no wiggle from side to side at all. IIn fact one pair did have some wiggle room side to side and they were eliminated.

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