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Arc'Teryx leaking pockets

post #1 of 11
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I had a jacket replaced by Arc'Teryx that blew apart in the dryer at every seem. They replaced it with a Beta FL. Awesome jacket, super light, extreme breathability and water tight... Except for the pockets - they literally fill up like swimming pools. Zips closed, light rain. Anyone else have this problem?
post #2 of 11
Why not call and ask arcteryx?
post #3 of 11

^^^ Too easy. Before we go all realistic, I propose 13 pages of posts about problems they've had with parkas. 

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^^^ Too easy. Before we go all realistic, I propose 13 pages of posts about problems they've had with parkas. 

13 is not enough!
post #5 of 11

Has to do with two things.. water dripping from the helmet and pickets zipping up instead of down to close.  See helmet threads for the former and jacket threads for the latter.

 

Seriously though, jackets used to have material flaps that covered the zippers.  The "new look" seems to have abandoned those rain covers for the zippers.  But, I bet it saves a dollar or two of cost when producing each jacket to make them without the rain guards.  next the main zippers will be coming without button down flaps.

 

Old ski jacket with covered zippers..

 

 

New ski jacket with naked zippers..

 

 

 

Just look at the above two different designs and it is easy to see the top one with covered zippers would require a lot more labor (and labor costs) to produce.

post #6 of 11
'Naked' zippers work fine. Have since the late 90's. More seams DOESN'T mean better jackets. Your photos are a perfect illustration of this. The zippers and fabric in modern ski gear is light years ahead of stuff from 30 years ago.
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Has to do with two things.. water dripping from the helmet and pickets zipping up instead of down to close.  See helmet threads for the former and jacket threads for the latter.

Seriously though, jackets used to have material flaps that covered the zippers.  The "new look" seems to have abandoned those rain covers for the zippers.  But, I bet it saves a dollar or two of cost when producing each jacket to make them without the rain guards.  next the main zippers will be coming without button down flaps.

Old ski jacket with covered zippers..




New ski jacket with naked zippers..





Just look at the above two different designs and it is easy to see the top one with covered zippers would require a lot more labor (and labor costs) to produce.
The main zippers are indeed coming without the flaps and have been fir a decade or more. It's a good thing, it's called the waterproof Vislon zipper, it really is waterproof. Same is also true for most of the pocket zippers. The old style jacket you show probably leaked like crazy in a drizzle, the Marmot you show would remain bone dry.
If your modern jacket pocket or jacket leaked you either have a defect or you didn't close it correctly. It's easy to blame the gear but in truth modern high end gear is designed for much tougher conditions than an average rec skier encounters on the slope. So just chill... And my family has lost an iPhone to water damage in an Arcteryx jacket pocket, but that was probably a user error.
post #8 of 11
Any update with arc teryx
post #9 of 11

On Acr'Teryx's own website, they even have a disclaimer on many product description pages (including the Beta AR where I copied this from) that:

 

  • Note: Our WaterTight™ zippers are highly water resistant, but not waterproof. We do not recommend keeping items in your pockets that may be damaged by moisture
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Originally Posted by MiamiMark View Post
 

On Acr'Teryx's own website, they even have a disclaimer on many product description pages (including the Beta AR where I copied this from) that:

 

  • Note: Our WaterTight™ zippers are highly water resistant, but not waterproof. We do not recommend keeping items in your pockets that may be damaged by moisture

Those YYK and other zippers haven't changed much in the past 15 years.  They are pretty good, but again, the ski jackets used to have rain flaps over the zippers because they do leak some.  For some reason the high dollar ski apparel companies decided that cutting the costs of adding rain flaps over the zippers to pad profits on $600+ jackets was reasonable.  I won't be buying a new jacket anytime soon.

post #11 of 11
No worries, we weren't expecting you to. smile.gif
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