Originally Posted by jzamp
Sorry you have been hit so many times! it sounds very unusual to me, I can count the times i got hit/hit another skier on my hands for my entire ski life!
You are right, the user has a lot to do, as far the overall safe use of the device.
The difference I see is still that some "obstructions" are being handled by trained professionals, others by almighty parents...
jzamp, Thread drift.....
where do you ski now? general location, I don;t care specifically. and have you ever skied a LOT of days in some of the crowded eastern areas? I mean a lot like over say 30 to 50 days a year? I can actually see in my minds eye getting taken out 6 times in a season at some of them. My last girlfriend gets taken out at east once a season while teaching at one very small and one not so small area, sometimes by a student but not always, she teaches probably 50 days a season overall. I'm not sure but I'll bet she has had a multiple hit year too.
My second shift this season, which was at night, I came REALLY close to getting hit twice in a bright red jacket with a white cross on the back.....and got sworn at both times (to my embarassment, I have to admit one case I did stop in a bad spot....my fault entirely and I should know better) the other time I "managed" (radio traffic is faster that the fastest guest) to get on the same chair back up hill and had a nice heart to heart conversation with the kid, whether it had any effect remains to be seen, I know the kid we'll see.
Eastern crowds.....as an example I'll cite Hunter in the catskills. just above the base is this 15 acre ish expanse that has easily 10 different entrances and its a free for all to navigate. I don;t use the word hate often, but I actually hate to ski at Hunter. That's just the worst spot on the hill there are plenty of other spots. And that is just the terrain features, dont let me get started on the clientele. Not really related to this topic but once I got told to "get off my fuc...%^$ channel" while attempting to contact another of our party for lunch plans by 2 way radio.
Contrast that to a couple hundred days in the west. My worst (by far) and probably ONLY experience in the west that caused me any concern at all was at Alpine Meadows the year that philpug and trekchic got married. First afternoon we got the "show your boarding pass and get a 1/2 day ticket" at Alpine Meadows and conditions were generously described as eastern hardpack. We had no crowds and really no trouble skiing the thin conditions in control, it felt a lot like home ,,,,,,,,but there was a large percentage of (the few) skiers that day that seemed on the brink of disaster. It was head on a swivel skiing ! Squaw the following day was more or less the same conditions but the terror factor was vastly dimished.
The next day it snowed and snowed and snowed. The rest of the trip there was not a hint of the anxiety of the hard snow half day at Alpine Meadows.
tethering a student or child there, that day at Alpine Meadows, would be not a good idea at all.