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I am 5'11'' 220lbs and I have been skiing on Atomic M2tron B5 (I think from 2006) for the last 6 or 7 years. I know these skis are/were a huge talking point here, but I absolutely love them. The problem is that they are only 152 cm ( they barely make it to my chin now). I have only ever skied in Pennsylvania, but I am a pretty good skier. My B5's have always been fine here because 99% of the time I am skiing on PA groomers or ice. The problem is that I am finally making a trip out to Colorado in March and I know that these skis will not cut it out there. I really struggle on the rare occasion we get powder here because I just sink.

So I've been looking for an all mountain ski that will do well in PA but also work in Colorado. I came across the Cham 87s and have heard some good things and found a great deal on them as well. So I was wondering what everyone thinks about these skis. I'm thinking that the 184's are the right size because I am heavier than most my height. The only thing that concerns me is the flat tail because I'm used to the twin tips on my B5s. I like to occasionally ski backwards on trails and do 360's on the snow after going up side banks (I'm sure there is a term for that but I'm not caught up on all the lingo). So what are your thoughts on these skis given my situation?
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I'll chime in because I own a pair of Cham 87's, however my input needs to be filtered by the fact that I'm on the other end of the weight spectrum - I'm 5'9" and 145 lbs and skiing on a 170 length.

My older ski is a Line Prophet 100 from (?) 6 or so years ago for reference and I live/ski in Colorado.

 

The Cham's won me over for their great ability to ski in the tree's. For me, and compared to my old twin tip Prophets, they are an "intentional" ski, meaning they track well and go where you point them. The big shovel up front helps them in crud and "not deep" soft snow. They hold an edge well (for my weight) on groomers.

 

Negatives? That tail does not release as well as some other ski's, so they are a bit more work in the bumps where the tail can hang up on you if you tend to smear the tails over each bump. They aren't hard to ski in the bumps, but aren't as relaxed as some of the twin tips and others with rear rocker I have tried. It's that "intentional" thing, if that makes sense.

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Originally Posted by Wallee View Post
 

I'll chime in because I own a pair of Cham 87's, however my input needs to be filtered by the fact that I'm on the other end of the weight spectrum - I'm 5'9" and 145 lbs and skiing on a 170 length.

My older ski is a Line Prophet 100 from (?) 6 or so years ago for reference and I live/ski in Colorado.

 

The Cham's won me over for their great ability to ski in the tree's. For me, and compared to my old twin tip Prophets, they are an "intentional" ski, meaning they track well and go where you point them. The big shovel up front helps them in crud and "not deep" soft snow. They hold an edge well (for my weight) on groomers.

 

Negatives? That tail does not release as well as some other ski's, so they are a bit more work in the bumps where the tail can hang up on you if you tend to smear the tails over each bump. They aren't hard to ski in the bumps, but aren't as relaxed as some of the twin tips and others with rear rocker I have tried. It's that "intentional" thing, if that makes sense.

 

Hi,

 

 

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I am 5'11'' 220lbs and I have been skiing on Atomic M2tron B5 (I think from 2006) for the last 6 or 7 years. I know these skis are/were a huge talking point here, but I absolutely love them. The problem is that they are only 152 cm ( they barely make it to my chin now). I have only ever skied in Pennsylvania, but I am a pretty good skier. My B5's have always been fine here because 99% of the time I am skiing on PA groomers or ice. The problem is that I am finally making a trip out to Colorado in March and I know that these skis will not cut it out there. I really struggle on the rare occasion we get powder here because I just sink.

So I've been looking for an all mountain ski that will do well in PA but also work in Colorado. I came across the Cham 87s and have heard some good things and found a great deal on them as well. So I was wondering what everyone thinks about these skis. I'm thinking that the 184's are the right size because I am heavier than most my height. The only thing that concerns me is the flat tail because I'm used to the twin tips on my B5s. I like to occasionally ski backwards on trails and do 360's on the snow after going up side banks (I'm sure there is a term for that but I'm not caught up on all the lingo). So what are your thoughts on these skis given my situation?

 

Hi,

 

I like the Cham 87, quick, fun, powerful, playful.  The tail is kind of funky, it doesn't finish the turn, but I like the tip profile and shape for mostly off-piste skiing. Not sure I like it more than say the FX84 though; it has a bit more grip, more stability, and a better turn finish. But if the price is right, the Cham 87 is definitely capable off-piste

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Quote:
 

I'll chime in because I own a pair of Cham 87's, however my input needs to be filtered by the fact that I'm on the other end of the weight spectrum - I'm 5'9" and 145 lbs and skiing on a 170 length.

My older ski is a Line Prophet 100 from (?) 6 or so years ago for reference and I live/ski in Colorado.

 

The Cham's won me over for their great ability to ski in the tree's. For me, and compared to my old twin tip Prophets, they are an "intentional" ski, meaning they track well and go where you point them. The big shovel up front helps them in crud and "not deep" soft snow. They hold an edge well (for my weight) on groomers.

 

Negatives? That tail does not release as well as some other ski's, so they are a bit more work in the bumps where the tail can hang up on you if you tend to smear the tails over each bump. They aren't hard to ski in the bumps, but aren't as relaxed as some of the twin tips and others with rear rocker I have tried. It's that "intentional" thing, if that makes sense.

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Originally Posted by Wallee View Post
 

I'll chime in because I own a pair of Cham 87's, however my input needs to be filtered by the fact that I'm on the other end of the weight spectrum - I'm 5'9" and 145 lbs and skiing on a 170 length.

My older ski is a Line Prophet 100 from (?) 6 or so years ago for reference and I live/ski in Colorado.

 

The Cham's won me over for their great ability to ski in the tree's. For me, and compared to my old twin tip Prophets, they are an "intentional" ski, meaning they track well and go where you point them. The big shovel up front helps them in crud and "not deep" soft snow. They hold an edge well (for my weight) on groomers.

 

Negatives? That tail does not release as well as some other ski's, so they are a bit more work in the bumps where the tail can hang up on you if you tend to smear the tails over each bump. They aren't hard to ski in the bumps, but aren't as relaxed as some of the twin tips and others with rear rocker I have tried. It's that "intentional" thing, if that makes sense

Sorry this is kind of late, but thanks so much guys!

 

I ended up buying the Chams.  I have only been able to use them once as I have been having some health problems and had to have minor surgery in early January, but I really liked them the one time I did use them this year.  I felt really comfortable on them, even in the varying conditions of the PA resort I was at.  They had just been hit with a pretty big snowfall two days prior, but the day we went the sun was out and the temperature was in the high 30's so everything was slowly turning to slush and ice, but we also managed to get a few runs in early in the day on what I would consider above average PA groomer condition.  I had no major problems with the Chams in any of the conditions but I did start to notice how flexible the skis are after hitting some ice, but overall it did not bother me much.

 

Anyway, we are set to head out to Colorado for the week this coming Saturday and I am planning on writing up a trip report on the site.  I am feeling 100% so I am really excited for my first trip out west now that my health problems are in the rear view mirror!

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Have fun out here. We finally got a couple of dumps, so the snow should be good for you. If we get more and it's deep when you are here, you might want to demo a wider ski just for grins.

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