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post #1 of 16
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Hi guys,

 

New to the board. Not trying to sell anything I promise just wanted to hear your thoughts.

 

For the past year, my partner and I, were working on an invention that can hopefully be added to the rack market.

 

Every time we want to go skiing/snowboarding, we can only take one extra person due to their being no room. 

 

We came up with the idea of having a portable trunk rack that doesn't need a hatch to hold snowboards, skis and bicycles. Basically a 3 in 1 rack.

 

https://www.quirky.com/invent/1546406/action/vote/query/view=trending&categories=all

 

For the fun of it, we put it on quirky and the response has been kind of crazy. 

 

What do you guys think?  A few of the main questions we included in the post.

 

- There is a lock so it can't be stolen

- Its mounted so its not lower then bumper just in case you hit a bump

- Can accommodate 4 boards

-Will have a joint to tilt the boards to fit the slope of the car.

 

Hope you like it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #2 of 16

The tails of the skis/board are much too low. Turning into a steep drive or backing into a snow bank will damage the skis, rack and perhaps dent the trunk lid. Sorry but a definite 'fail' in my book. Nice car though.

post #3 of 16
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Unfortunately the picture of the diagram isn't the best.  Its actually above the bumper just like a normal rack.

 

Its actually higher then this:

 

http://m.rackattack.com/Product/Thule-9033-Tram-Hitch-Ski-Carrier-with-Locks

 

Our product developer is out for the rest of the year so we can't really update the digital rendering but our working prototype has them much higher up that that pic looks.

post #4 of 16

A single point of support for boards and skis is probably going to be insufficient. I predict they are going to wobble and bang around. Try holding a pair of skis vertically out your car window and have someone drive. You'll quickly realize that it will be very difficult to hold them so they aren't bouncing around.

 

I don't see anything innovative about the function of the rack. There are many racks that sit on the trunk/tailgate and are attached by four straps with hooks that either clip to the tailgate, trunk lid or hatch windows.

post #5 of 16
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Originally Posted by MastersRacer View Post
 

A single point of support for boards and skis is probably going to be insufficient. I predict they are going to wobble and bang around. Try holding a pair of skis vertically out your car window and have someone drive. You'll quickly realize that it will be very difficult to hold them so they aren't bouncing around.

 

I don't see anything innovative about the function of the rack. There are many racks that sit on the trunk/tailgate and are attached by four straps with hooks that either clip to the tailgate, trunk lid or hatch windows.

 

Thank you for even looking into it.

 

We are adding a joint to it would be more then one point of support.

 

You're 100% correct. There is nothing life changing about this rack however for people with sedans who don't have hatches, have more then one car, and/or dont want to use their roof, we felt this would be easier. Just adding something to an existing product. 

 

Even on quirky, people right that it has been done before but it hasn't. Thought we would give it a shot and see how it goes.

 

I know one distributor was interested in the idea when we reached out to them a few months ago. Now its more of just a feedback stage to see what we should add and whatnot.

post #6 of 16

I would never carry my skis exposed to the elements /road salt, especially behind a vehicle.  put some bars on top and a rocket type box.   

post #7 of 16
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I would never carry my skis exposed to the elements /road salt, especially behind a vehicle.  put some bars on top and a rocket type box.   

 

great suggestion. Will look into it right away.

post #8 of 16
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I would never carry my skis exposed to the elements /road salt, especially behind a vehicle.  put some bars on top and a rocket type box.   

 

 

You're not a fan of this the 9033? 

 

Again, this is just me thinking for us Sedan users. I can't put a rack on the top of my car. Wanting to make it easier and trying to get there.

post #9 of 16
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Originally Posted by royal View Post
 

I would never carry my skis exposed to the elements /road salt, especially behind a vehicle.  put some bars on top and a rocket type box.   

 

I tie my skis to the rear ladder of my truck camper, but first I put them in a ski bag, then tightly wrap a bike cable lock around the ski and ladder.

post #10 of 16

I'm with Royal.  I would never carry skis exposed like this.  Road salt/grime/rain/etc. exposure is way too great.  You can degrade edges & bindings in 15 minutes.

But then maybe I'm not in your buyer demographic; I'm not looking for a rear rack.

post #11 of 16

They have magnetic mounts for ski racks.  Not ideal but better than the proposed options above.  

post #12 of 16
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post
 

They have magnetic mounts for ski racks.  Not ideal but better than the proposed options above.  

 

actually tried this and damaged the paint on my car..

 

In regards to the exposing to debris, it really is a great point and we can add something to prevent that like Dano mentioned. 

post #13 of 16
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Originally Posted by TheRackman View Post
 

 

actually tried this and damaged the paint on my car..

 

In regards to the exposing to debris, it really is a great point and we can add something to prevent that like Dano mentioned. 

Skiing and ski resort roads are kind of a play rough kind if activity, especially for the vehicles.  If you have a vehicle that you want to keep in pristine condition renting the gear (including the vehicle) is probably a better option.  Mountain roads are full of flying rocks, very corrosive road salt, not to mention the ice rink of bumper cars all over.  There are also the tight parking spaces and people leaning their gear against their car only to have it blow over in to yours along with door dings and on and on.  Ski resort travel is pretty much a full contact sport that people that go more than twice a year are fully aware of.  If a couple tiny marks from a roof rack are a problem preventing the use of that gear than you're only going to find more heartache in other unforeseen dings and dents that are unavoidable in ski resort commuting.

 

And the rocket box Dano mentions pretty much also has to go on top..

 

 

One other problem with the strap mounted racks is that they get stolen.  I wouldn't park outside a restaurant or even to use the bathroom with expensive gear sitting there. 

post #14 of 16
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post
 

Skiing and ski resort roads are kind of a play rough kind if activity, especially for the vehicles.  If you have a vehicle that you want to keep in pristine condition renting the gear (including the vehicle) is probably a better option.  Mountain roads are full of flying rocks, very corrosive road salt, not to mention the ice rink of bumper cars all over.  There are also the tight parking spaces and people leaning their gear against their car only to have it blow over in to yours along with door dings and on and on.  Ski resort travel is pretty much a full contact sport that people that go more than twice a year are fully aware of.  Iv a couple tiny marks from a roof rack are a problem preventing the use of that gear than you're only going to find more heartache in other unforeseen dings and dents that are unavoidable in ski resort commuting.

couldnt agree more.  Its def not safe for any car. I meant the magnetic rack holder left some damage and also it being wider bothered me.

 

The idea of this rack isn't supposed to be the end of all racks. Just a supplement to the hatch product. More for the regular sedan.


The rack itself can be removed anytime and put into your trunk. Folds up. 

post #15 of 16

Man, I was hoping you were a plastic surgeon... oh well.

post #16 of 16
Racks tied on with straps reminds me of the bike I saw come off with the rack on the QEW (Ont Canada) at highway speed, luckily no one was hurt (at not when I drove by the car that dropped them). I'm sure the conversation in the car started something like this.... I thought you checked the straps?!

Have to say it's bad enough with roof rack based mounts, but tailgate mounts are worse.
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