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post #1 of 24
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Hey guys,

 

I'm currently a student at the University of Vermont and my dad is going to fly up to Burlington and ski with me for a few days before school starts back up (it's looking like January 6th to the 9th). I would like some input about where we should ski.

 

I currently teach at Stowe and have taught at Sugarbush in the past, so I'm pretty familiar with both mountains and like them a lot, but am thinking I might want to try something different for this trip.  I haven't skied anywhere else in VT and am open to any and all suggestions (I am trying to stay in VT though because my dad is flying into Burlington).  

 

A little bit about my dad and I and what we're looking for: I'm a fairly aggressive advanced-expert skier who likes skiing anything and everything, with a slight preference to steeps.  My dad is a solid intermediate-advanced skier who can ski most blacks, but is fairly cautious at this point and really just enjoys cruisers and long blues.  We're looking for a resort that will cater to both of our abilities/ preferences, with good apres-ski and plenty to do off the slopes.  We're not really looking to stay right at the resort due to costs, but would like to be fairly close to the resort/ town (within 10 or 15 minutes).

 

I know a number of resorts will probably fit this bill, but do you guys have any recommendations for me/ favorites among the VT resorts.  Right now I would say I'm considering Jay and Killington most heavily, but am open to other suggestions and have not ruled out Stowe/ Sugarbush either.  What do you guys think?  Thanks,

 

Tyler

post #2 of 24
IMHO totally nuts to drive to Killington if you're already in Burlington. No reason for a big drive; you're in the right place. Stowe and Sugarbush are the obvious choices for your dad. Has he been there already? If not, take him there and save your terrain adventures for another occasion. If HE wants a change too, just go where the snow is best at the time - MRG, Smuggs, or Jay. Signed, a Dad.
post #3 of 24

Echo what is said about.  Don't recommend Kmart.  Not worth the drive.  I would go with Sugarbush/MRG.  Stowe/Smuggs & Jay.  Maybe a day at Burke.  Stowe is expensive for sure but is tough to beat on a good day.  Have a good time with the Old Man and enjoy as these times aren't gonna last forever.  Just went with my Old Man to Utah.  He is 67.  Skied 4 days and had a blast.  

post #4 of 24

Do you not have some way of hooking your dad up at Stowe?

post #5 of 24
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Originally Posted by eastskier44 View Post
 

Hey guys,

 

I'm currently a student at the University of Vermont and my dad is going to fly up to Burlington and ski with me for a few days before school starts back up (it's looking like January 6th to the 9th). I would like some input about where we should ski.

 

I currently teach at Stowe and have taught at Sugarbush in the past, so I'm pretty familiar with both mountains and like them a lot, but am thinking I might want to try something different for this trip.  I haven't skied anywhere else in VT and am open to any and all suggestions (I am trying to stay in VT though because my dad is flying into Burlington).  

 

A little bit about my dad and I and what we're looking for: I'm a fairly aggressive advanced-expert skier who likes skiing anything and everything, with a slight preference to steeps.  My dad is a solid intermediate-advanced skier who can ski most blacks, but is fairly cautious at this point and really just enjoys cruisers and long blues.  We're looking for a resort that will cater to both of our abilities/ preferences, with good apres-ski and plenty to do off the slopes.  We're not really looking to stay right at the resort due to costs, but would like to be fairly close to the resort/ town (within 10 or 15 minutes).

 

I know a number of resorts will probably fit this bill, but do you guys have any recommendations for me/ favorites among the VT resorts.  Right now I would say I'm considering Jay and Killington most heavily, but am open to other suggestions and have not ruled out Stowe/ Sugarbush either.  What do you guys think?  Thanks,

 

Tyler

 

My experience is at Jay and Burke.  I would say that Jay could definitely fulfill your skiing needs.  If you guys are into glade skiing that might be the place for you!  They've got a face chute if you're feeling brave.  They've got some pretty good blue slopes that are pretty long.  Remember they have the tram, so that can be a warmer and faster option than the lifts if it's super cold...  Burke is cool, but stuck in the middle of nowhere.  Kind of like Jay, but less of a mountain.  Your requirement for apres-ski kind of eliminates these two places.  Don't get me wrong, we love Jay and stay at the resort at least a couple times a year, but there's just not much going on outside the resort.  Same with Burke.  I grew up about 20 miles from there...

post #6 of 24

Not in VT, but from Burlington it doesn't take that long to get to Lake Placid.  Can take the Charlotte-Essex ferry.  Whiteface is quite a difference experience than Stowe.  Lodging options at all price points in Lake Placid or can stay in one of the little places in Wilmington.  The drive from Whiteface to Lake Placid is an easy 20 min.

post #7 of 24

Sugarbush/Stowe/Jay are all easier drives from Burlington, and have the best advanced terrain in the area.

 

Killington/Pico could let you try another location. Rutland would have hotel options, close to Killington, but much cheaper. The Apres scene will certainly be there. If you can ski Killington midweek there are no crowds at all--like almost anywhere in VT.

 

If you want to play tourist and are okay with less challenge, head further south and choose between Okemo, Stratton, Bromley, and Magic Mtn. Magic would be the only option with real challenge, but you could get a taste for a couple of the super popular southern VT resorts.

 

You may be spoiled on VT for snow quality and terrain variety with Sugarbush and Stowe.

 

If you are willing to venture out of VT you could try NH. Some combination of Cannon, Bretton Woods (easy groomers, but trees with a decent reputation it sounds), Wildcat, or Loon. There are groomers and challenge mixed in to varying degrees at each of those places, and hotel options depending on what area excites you.

post #8 of 24
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Originally Posted by marznc View Post

Not in VT, but from Burlington it doesn't take that long to get to Lake Placid.

Well... it's not exactly like driving to Smuggs, either. "You can't get there from here," at least not unless you're prioritizing tourism over slope time. If you lived in Frisco, would you drive a visitor to Steamboat? Don't see the point until / unless we know Dad doesn't like the local spots for some reason. (Note, fwiw, I lived in the BTV area for nine years.)
post #9 of 24

I'd start Sugarbush/Stowe. If you are up for an adventure, and dad brings his passport, you may want to consider Mt Sutton or Owls head in Quebec. Smaller mountains but fun to be in a different country. Mt Sutton would be similar to Killington for trip time from BTV and skis like a slightly smaller, more groomed MRG.

post #10 of 24
 
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Originally Posted by marznc View Post

Not in VT, but from Burlington it doesn't take that long to get to Lake Placid.

Well... it's not exactly like driving to Smuggs, either. "You can't get there from here," at least not unless you're prioritizing tourism over slope time. If you lived in Frisco, would you drive a visitor to Steamboat? Don't see the point until / unless we know Dad doesn't like the local spots for some reason. (Note, fwiw, I lived in the BTV area for nine years.)

True.  I was responding to the OP's comments highlighted below.

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Originally Posted by eastskier44 View Post
 

Hey guys,

 

I'm currently a student at the University of Vermont and my dad is going to fly up to Burlington and ski with me for a few days before school starts back up (it's looking like January 6th to the 9th). I would like some input about where we should ski.

 

I currently teach at Stowe and have taught at Sugarbush in the past, so I'm pretty familiar with both mountains and like them a lot, but am thinking I might want to try something different for this trip.  I haven't skied anywhere else in VT and am open to any and all suggestions (I am trying to stay in VT though because my dad is flying into Burlington).  

 

A little bit about my dad and I and what we're looking for: I'm a fairly aggressive advanced-expert skier who likes skiing anything and everything, with a slight preference to steeps.  My dad is a solid intermediate-advanced skier who can ski most blacks, but is fairly cautious at this point and really just enjoys cruisers and long blues.  We're looking for a resort that will cater to both of our abilities/ preferences, with good apres-ski and plenty to do off the slopes.  We're not really looking to stay right at the resort due to costs, but would like to be fairly close to the resort/ town (within 10 or 15 minutes).

 

I know a number of resorts will probably fit this bill, but do you guys have any recommendations for me/ favorites among the VT resorts.  Right now I would say I'm considering Jay and Killington most heavily, but am open to other suggestions and have not ruled out Stowe/ Sugarbush either.  What do you guys think?  Thanks,

 

Tyler

Staying at Smuggs or even Stowe would not provide the OP and his father with much new non-skiing fun.  The long blues from the top of Whiteface are pretty different than what I've found in VT/NH so far.  Talk of "steeps" always makes me think of Whiteface.  If the Olympic venues are of any interest, that's a unique feature to Lake Placid.

 

Burlington to Lake Placid takes 2-3 hours, even if you have to wait a bit for the ferry.  Yeah, that's an hour or so more than driving to Smuggs (not via Stowe).

 

When I ski in the northeast, I do choose my ski destinations partially because of tourist considerations.  After driving 800 miles from NC, I'm looking for more than just skiing.  In my case, the reason to be in Lake Placid during ski season is that my daughter is in school there.  Otherwise, my skiing at big mountains would all be out west.

post #11 of 24

You have a pass to Stowe, you have vouchers for your dad. I'm not sure I understand the question. If you want to add some adventure and make it different, ski across the pond and do Smuggs for a day. Unless your dad has skied Stowe hundreds of times and is dying for a change why would you not just ski Stowe?

post #12 of 24

Not much to add except to suggest you might want take a step back and consider what Dad would enjoy the best. Sounds like challenging, new territory for you might not be all that much fun for Dad. Maybe the time to push yourself on new terrain is with a couple of your buddies. Speaking as a parent, (your Dad may be different, of course) there would be a great deal of satisfaction - and pride - from skiing with "my son (or daughter), the ski instructor" at the area where they teach.   

post #13 of 24
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Originally Posted by marznc View Post
 

Not in VT, but from Burlington it doesn't take that long to get to Lake Placid.  Can take the Charlotte-Essex ferry.  Whiteface is quite a difference experience than Stowe.  Lodging options at all price points in Lake Placid or can stay in one of the little places in Wilmington.  The drive from Whiteface to Lake Placid is an easy 20 min.

 

whiteface 44-86 trails Cloudsplitter on wind hold for the past couple days.

Stowe - 87 -116 trails

 

I would say that is quite a difference.

 

 

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Originally Posted by epic View Post
 

You have a pass to Stowe, you have vouchers for your dad. I'm not sure I understand the question. If you want to add some adventure and make it different, ski across the pond and do Smuggs for a day. Unless your dad has skied Stowe hundreds of times and is dying for a change why would you not just ski Stowe?

 

x2.

post #14 of 24

I agree with epic. I remember talking with you last season when you were considering Stowe, and ended up at the Bush. So this is your first year at Stowe, meaning you've barely scratched the surface. I've been skiing there for years, epic has been skiing there even longer. Its more than enough to entertain us on a regular basis. You have your pass and you have your Share Stowe vouchers. Means you ski for free, and your dad gets a couple days free and a couple at a better price than you'll find anywhere else. No brainer. 

 

The only other place which would add some interest would be MRG. But I know an instructor there, he says conditions are pretty gnarly there at the moment, and the long range forecast between now and then doesn't promise any improvement. 

post #15 of 24
Thread Starter 

Thanks for all the replies guys.  I think I will end up doing Stowe, and maybe doing Bush or Smuggs for a day just to mix it up.  Just to clarify, I have already given my vouchers away, so my dad will still have to pay full price at Stowe I think (though I obviously ski free).  My reason for asking in the first place was to see if there was anywhere else in VT that would be a significantly better option for my dad and I than Stowe (both on and off the slopes), and it seems like the answer to that is no.  

 

For people who are familiar with the Stowe area, can anyone recommend a decent place to stay for 2 or 3 nights?  We would like to be close to the mountain (no more than 15-20 minutes away), but see no need in staying at the resort.  We don't need anything over the top, just a nice place to sleep each night.  Our budget is $150 per night.

post #16 of 24

Stowe Motel right on the access road.

post #17 of 24
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Originally Posted by DirtViking View Post

My experience is at Jay and Burke.  I would say that Jay could definitely fulfill your skiing needs.  If you guys are into glade skiing that might be the place for you!  They've got a face chute if you're feeling brave.  They've got some pretty good blue slopes that are pretty long.  Remember they have the tram, so that can be a warmer and faster option than the lifts if it's super cold...  Burke is cool, but stuck in the middle of nowhere.  Kind of like Jay, but less of a mountain.  Your requirement for apres-ski kind of eliminates these two places.  Don't get me wrong, we love Jay and stay at the resort at least a couple times a year, but there's just not much going on outside the resort.  Same with Burke.  I grew up about 20 miles from there...

Anyone that said Jay, has their finger on the soul pulse. Smuggs, MRG, jay, even the bush, have tons of soul. Jay is king tho. Ride it!
post #18 of 24

I would also put the Mtns worth considering as: Jay, Stowe, Smuggs, The Bush, MRG, Whiteface or even Northern NH like Bretton Woods or Cannon (never been there but I heard they're both pretty good) I personally would wait til the last second before booking anything just so you guys can see where the snow is best

post #19 of 24
The face is my home place, the conditions there can be extremely challenging. If u got big east coast ski balls check it ou, u can find deals around it too. The only New England state I haven't skied is nh. Cannon here I come
post #20 of 24
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Originally Posted by EasideSoulSkier View Post

The face is my home place, the conditions there can be extremely challenging. If u got big east coast ski balls check it ou, u can find deals around it too. The only New England state I haven't skied is nh. Cannon here I come


Having skied in NH for the first time in early Dec, you might also consider checking out Wildcat, especially if there hasn't been much new snow at Cannon.

post #21 of 24
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Originally Posted by eastskier44 View Post
 

Thanks for all the replies guys.  I think I will end up doing Stowe, and maybe doing Bush or Smuggs for a day just to mix it up.  Just to clarify, I have already given my vouchers away, so my dad will still have to pay full price at Stowe I think (though I obviously ski free).  My reason for asking in the first place was to see if there was anywhere else in VT that would be a significantly better option for my dad and I than Stowe (both on and off the slopes), and it seems like the answer to that is no.  

 

For people who are familiar with the Stowe area, can anyone recommend a decent place to stay for 2 or 3 nights?  We would like to be close to the mountain (no more than 15-20 minutes away), but see no need in staying at the resort.  We don't need anything over the top, just a nice place to sleep each night.  Our budget is $150 per night.

Tons of places on the Mountain Road and in town. With that price point, you can easily do Green Mountain Inn right in town, Commodore's Inn, Stowehof, Northern Lights, Innsbruck, Golden Eagle, Town and Country, Sun & Ski, Stowe Motel, The Gables, The Arbor Inn, The Mountaineer, the Bear's Lair, the Stowe Inn... tons of options. 

post #22 of 24
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Originally Posted by EasideSoulSkier View Post


Anyone that said Jay, has their finger on the soul pulse. Smuggs, MRG, jay, even the bush, have tons of soul. Jay is king tho. Ride it!

The thread was started looking for 'long blue runs and cruisers with some steeper terrain and with good apres and plenty to do off the slopes'... that's not Jay. Unless your idea of great apres is floating around in kid urine, then yeah, Jay rocks!

post #23 of 24
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Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post

The thread was started looking for 'long blue runs and cruisers with some steeper terrain and with good apres and plenty to do off the slopes'... that's not Jay. Unless your idea of great apres is floating around in kid urine, then yeah, Jay rocks!

I don't care why it was started, I still vote jay. There is something there for everyone. U just have to be cooler to know that. Happy New Year! This year you should work on your cool. And being nicer. Think snow!
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I don't care why it was started, I still vote jay. There is something there for everyone. U just have to be cooler to know that. Happy New Year! This year you should work on your cool. And being nicer. Think snow!

thanks for the thoughtful, and helpful, advice all around.

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