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post #121 of 133
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Not that it matters, but I just prepped a pair of Cochises... They were REALLY railed. They would have been horrible to ski on without flattening the bases.


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post #122 of 133

Just ripped my first real day on my Salomon QLabs. My out of the wrapper molestation began and ended with a trip to the hot box. They ski beautifully. 

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Just ripped my first real day on my Salomon QLabs. My out of the wrapper molestation began and ended with a trip to the hot box. They ski beautifully. 


Well, I did tune the snot out of my new pairs of Q-98's.  Three cycles in the box.  I frickin' love them and so does my Lovely!  Contest skis so I had no choice.  If I had choice the Lab or Race would have been it.  Pray for some snow. 

post #124 of 133

Reading through many posts here it does go to show that not all skis are created equal out of the wrapper. Some have factory tunes that only need several good coats of wax to get the base conditioned and others well, they should go back to the factory for some serious questions about their condition. 

So with several posts and videos on here you should try and learn what to look for in a well tuned ski and what to look for with a not so well tuned ski. Just because someone has been in the business for many years doesn't mean they are doing it right, who taught them, what high end experience do they really have? Do your research and check with the local pros where they go.

post #125 of 133
You should always plan on a good tune on a new pair of skis. In the past I have found issues with most skis out of the box.
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Originally Posted by Sintesi View Post

You should always plan on a good tune on a new pair of skis. In the past I have found issues with most skis out of the box.


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post #127 of 133
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Originally Posted by skienian View Post
 

Reading through many posts here it does go to show that not all skis are created equal out of the wrapper. Some have factory tunes that only need several good coats of wax to get the base conditioned and others well, they should go back to the factory for some serious questions about their condition. 

So with several posts and videos on here you should try and learn what to look for in a well tuned ski and what to look for with a not so well tuned ski. Just because someone has been in the business for many years doesn't mean they are doing it right, who taught them, what high end experience do they really have? Do your research and check with the local pros where they go.

Always doing a full tune on new skis has not been necessary or desireable in all cases for me.  Some brands seem to usually need major work, others little besides a good wax job.  New recreational Heads, for example, have a reputation for mostly being wack, needing lots, out of the box.  But Atomics, so far, have been incredible, with nothing needed but new ski base wax prep, final wax & brush out, edges and base itself very good if not excellent - and really something to savor.  Same thing with Kastles.  Rossignols have been somewhere in between - between the good and the bad, I mean.  

 

To me it would have been a shame to waste the great edge feel of new Atomic Crimsons (two of em so far), or my Rituals, out of the box (plus thorough wax job added by me), not to mention their race-type skis, so far.  And Atomic Autos were fine too (though I've added sharper side bevels to those since, with some improvement in non-powder conditions).  

 

So I'll check out, and then sometimes even try out, new skis before doing more work on them - if nothing else just for the added experience, adding to the learning curve, so to speak.  

post #128 of 133

Hey there!

 

Any feedback on best tune for Head Titan 177?

 

Thanks!

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Hey there!

Any feedback on best tune for Head Titan 177?

Thanks!

If you are asking base and side bevels, it's entirely up to what YOU like. Do you know what you like or what your current skis are?

Beyond that, the most vocal forum members will vary normal between 3 or 2 for the side edge and a 1 on the base edge. But there are going to be people who like .5 or even split hairs about .75 on the base, with 4 for the side. You might want to read all the prior postings to get a preview.
post #130 of 133
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Hey there!

 

Any feedback on best tune for Head Titan 177?

 

Thanks!

when in doubt---use the factory specs. If you can find them. 

post #131 of 133

More than the factory tune, I think it comes down to "where do you ski and what do you want to ski".   If your local shop is good, they will be able to tell you if it's you're a 1/1 1/2 or 1/3.

Like if your home mountain's groomers are never icy it's going to be different than if your groomers are icy.

I will say self selecting that if you have to ask on an internet forum what what edge you are, I pretty much guaretee that you'll be best off with the standard 1/(1,2,3).   

post #132 of 133
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Ah, now I see what Aman is saying: "1/2 degree" = .5* base.  I didn't follow because he changed formulations and typically when I see 1/2 I think 1* base & 2* side.

 

Of course, 5 base is silly on a powder ski. . . and for that matter, suboptimal (too reactive) on most non-race skis for most recreational skiers in most geos.

I actually used both in the same post...so there wouldn't be confusion!  Context , context context! :D

post #133 of 133
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Originally Posted by kevperro View Post

The guy who sold them to me said they were good to go.   I have read otherwise here.   

What is the verdict?  Do I need to get my new skis tuned or do I just drop them down and go?

They can either ski well from the factory, or not.......they will or they won't. I've had both. The only way to find out is try 'em and see. If they don't ski well, have 'em tuned. Simple.
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