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What makes a Race plate a Race plate?

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What’s the difference between a Race Plate and a Carving plate?

Fischer, Head, and at least one Vist Race Plates are two pieces anchored at the ends closest to the middle of the ski and free floating on the ends fore and aft.

Vist Race Plates as they are on my 08 Nordica GS are two pieces, linked with an aluminum plate and anchored by the BOF, the heal and front of the toe float.

The Rossi R18 and R20 are two pieces and can be made independent like the Fischer/Heads or linked like the Nordy Vist via a max flex binding.

The Marker plate is one piece fixed to the ski in the middle and floats on both ends but can be made to be fixed in the heel free in the middle and float in the toe.

That is about every variation of plate there can be (I stand to be corrected) what makes a carving plate different than any of these. Can a carving plate be a race plate too?

Assume that the plates in question are all within the current FIS stand height regulation.

post #2 of 8

My. .02.   A RACE plate usually allows the ski to flex a bit in the middle BUT not as much as a "carving plate"

 

The "race" plate elevates the boot for higher angles and additional underfoot torsional stiffness.

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The big difference between a race plate and a carving plate, if we focus strictly at the build and the function, is that a racing plate is made a lot sturdier and with better flex function and adaptability for different ski types such as SL, GS, SG and DH. And there is a huge difference. I found this out when I got rid of the plastic carving plate and replaced it with a proper VIST WC plate on a pair of cheaters GS Heads. Huge difference. The best upgrade to a cheap ski is the plate and binding. Now I use these Völkl cheaters GS skis that come with some cheap and light rental type plate/binding combo. I swap them for the PistonPlateComp20 combo and they become totally new skis with superb edge hold and nice even flexing. 

post #4 of 8
Speaking of the Marker Piston Plate. does anyone know the current status of "binding gate" with Hirscher using the piston plate on his Atomics. Has he switched back to the Atomics.
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Yes, Im also interested to know. Atomic is designing a new plate Ive heard so at some point he is going to switch back to Atomic Im sure.

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Yes, Im also interested to know. Atomic is designing a new plate Ive heard so at some point he is going to switch back to Atomic Im sure.

 

wonder if it will have a piston as well???  :) 

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Originally Posted by Sintesi View Post

Speaking of the Marker Piston Plate. does anyone know the current status of "binding gate" with Hirscher using the piston plate on his Atomics. Has he switched back to the Atomics.


He was still on Markers at Wengen

 

http://i1.eurosport.com/2015/01/17/1392275-29842096-1600-900.jpg

post #8 of 8
Thanks for the pic. I have been watching the races to seeing there have been any changes but Universal Sports is not in HD on Direct TV it makes it tough. Too bad Hirscher blew out at Wengen. Seems he has a tough time on that track even at his level.
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