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All-Mtn or GS Ski Recommendations

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Looking for some advice for a good all-mountain or GS ski. I'm a 47 y/o ex-racer who has been skiing on 180 cm Atomic SX-11 for the last several years. Liked them so much I bought a second pair used but now the bindings are starting to fail (again).

 

My ideal run is a high-speed run down a groomer like Haulback at Sugarloaf. I also really enjoy arcing turns down a long blue cruising run like Tri-color to Silver Doctor at Saddleback. I can still ski the fall line and carve well but I don't need a racing ski and I'm not going to race any more.

 

Where in the world are you skiing? Maine and New Hampshire
What kinds of terrain do you prefer? Groomed runs, steeps, and cruisers
How many days a year do you ski? 8
How advanced are you as a skier? Expert
What's your height and weight? 5'8", 160lbs

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Blizzard Brahma or Volkl RTM 81?

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Blizzard Brahma or Volkl RTM 81?

Neither? 5'8", 160, you could ski a 176 cheater (roughly 18 radius non FIS) GS ski like a Nordica Doberman GSR... It'd rip and be super versatile in that length. Much better hard snow grip than either the Brahma or RTM 81.
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Blizzard x-power 810

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Thanks for the rcommendations. Today I rented the 2015 Brahma and tried my son's Rtm81s. They both felt like a compromise when comparing to a GS ski. Both great in powder but they chatter on ice. (Plenty of that today at Sunday River.) The RTMs were the better ski for me today. I'll check into you suggestions.
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Originally Posted by Piner View Post

Blizzard Brahma or Volkl RTM 81?

Neither? 5'8", 160, you could ski a 176 cheater (roughly 18 radius non FIS) GS ski like a Nordica Doberman GSR... It'd rip and be super versatile in that length. Much better hard snow grip than either the Brahma or RTM 81.


What he said.

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Originally Posted by Piner View Post

Blizzard Brahma or Volkl RTM 81?


Neither? 5'8", 160, you could ski a 176 cheater (roughly 18 radius non FIS) GS ski like a Nordica Doberman GSR... It'd rip and be super versatile in that length. Much better hard snow grip than either the Brahma or RTM 81.


What he said.


+3 ... More or less.

I know all the mountains you're talking about, and the specific trails you mention at the Loaf and Saddleback. If you are really a groomers-only guy, then yes, a 70-something carver sounds like a better choice than an 80-something all mountain ski for you. My addition would be to suggest that you keep the radius no longer than markojp's good suggestion, especially if you ski at the River a lot. (More traffic on the hill, lots of intersections.) E.g., Head Magnum or Rally. Blizzard has the 800s. Seems like more on target than the 810 mentioned, given your feedback on the RTM. I have not skied that, but my everyday ski for years at these areas was its direct ancestor and it was great. Others here like the 800s.

Atomic has a couple skis in this bucket if you want to stay with a familiar brand. Maybe @Atomicman has been on them?

Edit: Think links are now fixed

http://www.atomic.com/en/Products/alpine/skis/piste/NOMAD_[S]_TEMPER_TI/AASS00654.aspx?filter=534%3a4



http://m.atomic.com/en-US/Products/Alpine/skis/race/REDSTER_DOUBLEDECK_3.0_XT/AA0025240.aspx


Edited by qcanoe - 12/17/14 at 4:12pm
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Hi. Couple of ideas. I ski at Sugarloaf. Older than you, bigger as well. About 210 lbs. Pretty extensive race background, now split our time between Sugarloaf and CO. Maybe 70 days a winter on snow. I have pretty good access to ski equipment through my son, who's a coach out West, and through a couple of industry connections.  My son is a Blizz guy. I have a pair of 187cm Brahmas, a 187 Bonafide, a 185 Cochise, a 193cm Cochise as well as a Nordica's 184cm FireArrow EDT, and 193cm Helldorado…..and two cheaters: a 180cm Head ispeed, and a 178cm Dynastar Course Pro. I also have two older pairs of Stockli XL's, that are pretty much early season rock skis, and some other assorted older race skis. 

 

Some of my skis live out in CO, some at Sugarloaf. I ski either the Head, or Dynastar 75% of the time at Sugarloaf. I agree with the comment that a cheater GS ski will serve you VERY well. I ski the Brahma when it's soft snow, fresh snow, or when the days are sunnier and longer {and the snow is softer}. So, basically I ski it in March, into April, before the rocks pop out.  I can ski the Brahma on pretty hard snow, but it took me a sold 3-4 days to get really comfortable the first time I skied a flip core ski {the Bonafide, two seasons ago}. At first I wasn't sure about that rocker, I think I imagined that the tip was flapping all over the place {more than it was}, and the ski is so easy to pivot, that I was not laying it over enough to generate as much edge angle as it likes. The fact is that it wants to be up on edge, and it needs to be driven. It will have a different type of feedback from the tip than what you're used to, and it will release easier from a turn, and not have the pop out of the turn. I gave my son my "day one" report when I first tried the Bonafide, and he told me to stick with them for a couple of more days. The Brahma skis very similarly, so the there was no transition for me. I knew what to expect, and what NOT to expect. It's a great ski for the right conditions. But there are better skis…..like my cheaters…..for the majority of my Sugarloaf days. In December, January, and until Mid February, when the sun has dropped and the light is flat at 10:30AM, I never reach for the Brahma. Actually I try to not be at Sugarloaf so much! 

 

We often have industry friends stay with us at Sugarloaf. I can guarantee that they will all be commenting, in late March, about how hard the surface is all over the mountain, when US nationals take place. As a result, IMO, a real hard snow ski is the weapon. My EDT's stay in CO, where they are my older snow ski, particularly on days when there is wide open space, and lower ski density {think Haulback or Gauge on a Wednesday}. I ski the Bonafide 70% of my days out there, and could ski it every day. The "hard older snow" of CO is just not what we're used to seeing at SR or SL. 

 

IF I had to buy one ski for that location, it would be a cheater in the 180cm range at my size, the 175cm in yours. The Head feels more like a GS ski. Very damp, super stable. The Dynastar is a ton of fun. real quick, a lot of rebound, loves to carve right down the fall line, and seems to be able to make all sorts of turn shape. A bit smaller turn radius, and a bit easier to bend. There are a lot of good cheaters out there. 

 

And I seriously am a huge fan of the Blizz Flipcore skis. On the right day, at/in the right place, on the right surface. They do an awful lot of great things, and do pretty much everything pretty well. But on buffed Maine "hard"…..or the true dust on crust, I agree with the cheater. 

 

So that's my $.02. 

 

Just saw Qcanoe's comments, and they're spot on if you ski SR more often {the intersections, volume of skiers on the hill, etc.}. A carver rather than a cheater might be the best option there. Head and Blizz have many options there. 

 

MS

post #9 of 10

I agree with the Dynastar Course Pro suggestion!  You can also go with the CR 78 or 74 Pro; they are quite similar to the Course Pro...

I really like also my Head Rebel i,speed and have a blast each time I ski the  Blizzard G-Power FS!

 

Hey Muleski , it seems like we have quite similar taste in skis! I also own the Brahma and really like them for when I go all mountain... Have you ever tried the Magnum 8.5 or the M-Power 8.5 FS? Also Flipcore skis... I think you would find them interesting as they are kind of in between the Course pro and the Brahma...

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Since you didn't like the Brahma, I would look at a more frontside performance ski.  Something like one of the Head Supershapes (Rally was mentioned but there are others also) or a Fischer Progressor 900.  Another possibility is the Fischer Superior RC (consumer GS ski). 

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