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WTB: Skis, boots and poles for 3 y/o girl and 5 y/o boy

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 

I'm outfitting a three year old girl (30 lbs) and 5 y/o boy (46 lbs) this year to get them into skiing. I have the softgoods - now need the hard goods.

 

Please send me a pm here or on TGR (same screenname) - I don't check this thread often - with anything you have.

 

Much appreciated!

post #2 of 13

Might want to list your budget and the kids' shoe sizes and heights.

post #3 of 13
Thread Starter 

Good point Xela - the boy is size toddler 12 and the three year old girl is a size 8. I'll get their height measurements tonight.

 

As for budget that's flexible and depends on what I buy - as with any gear different items are worth different amounts.

post #4 of 13

I've had disappointing results when buying used skis, especially from eBay.  Conversely, I've often found really good deals on new-old-stock skis from places like Level Nine Sports.  If you can get neutral colors, everything you buy for your son will get double use.

 

For rank beginners, I suggest shoulder-height skis.  Unless kids are very strong or heavy, I don't see much advantage to longer skis.

 

It looks like the Roces adjustable ski boots are taking over the market.  I've never used them, but the idea sounds interesting.  This is one area of equipment that can make or break the ski day.  Comfort is king.  Trying to get comfortable, but not sloppy, boots via the internet may be tricky.

 

You shouldn't need poles for those ages.

 

Just looking at the L9 site, you could outfit both kids for $450 or so.  That should be a good yardstick when evaluating other deals.

post #5 of 13

Why buy skis and boots for young kids?  They're just going to outgrow them in a year or less.  I've gone the season rental route for my two kids  (3 and 6) and found it to work very well.  $90 for skis and boots, and they can switch them out for larger sizes if they have a growth spurt during the season.  Plus, they get "new" skis every season which is exciting to them.:)

post #6 of 13
I'm skeptical about rentals. We have had some kids on season rental gear in our house and the quality was markedly inferior to the retail gear my kids were on. Sloppy boots, sloppy bindings, etc. Quality used gear is probably the way to go if you don't go too often. If you go often you have to bite the bullet and buy new, because kids gear is not made to last as long as adult gear. After the age of about 7 they get close to killing a gear set in a good year.
post #7 of 13
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Originally Posted by alexzn View Post

I'm skeptical about rentals. We have had some kids on season rental gear in our house and the quality was markedly inferior to the retail gear my kids were on. Sloppy boots, sloppy bindings, etc. Quality used gear is probably the way to go if you don't go too often. If you go often you have to bite the bullet and buy new, because kids gear is not made to last as long as adult gear. After the age of about 7 they get close to killing a gear set in a good year.

 

I am not sure what you mean about "sloppy boots,sloppy bindings". The bindings are approved or ditched by the shop. If you don't like the boots (or the bindings) they pull out for your child, tell them to get another pair.

 

I do seasonal rentals for my kids until their feet stop growing. If you go to a decent shop you will be able to rent equipment for about $90. I have had to exchange boots in the middle of the season multiple times and it always includes a binding update at no charge. Unless your kids are racing this is an easy and affordable way to go.

post #8 of 13
Yes, my kids are racing.
post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by alexzn View Post

I'm skeptical about rentals. We have had some kids on season rental gear in our house and the quality was markedly inferior to the retail gear my kids were on. Sloppy boots, sloppy bindings, etc. Quality used gear is probably the way to go if you don't go too often. If you go often you have to bite the bullet and buy new, because kids gear is not made to last as long as adult gear. After the age of about 7 they get close to killing a gear set in a good year.

 

I am not sure what you mean about "sloppy boots,sloppy bindings". The bindings are approved or ditched by the shop. If you don't like the boots (or the bindings) they pull out for your child, tell them to get another pair.

 

I do seasonal rentals for my kids until their feet stop growing. If you go to a decent shop you will be able to rent equipment for about $90. I have had to exchange boots in the middle of the season multiple times and it always includes a binding update at no charge. Unless your kids are racing this is an easy and affordable way to go.

 

Often, it all depends on the kids involved. If they really take to skiing, they will improve much quicker than ones that does not. The kids that takes to the sport will need much better skis & boots than rentals can provide.

My son was in rentals for his first season when he was 2 years old. Like Alexzn, I have been biting the bullet and buying new for him since. They do know the difference - even at a very young age.        

Edit: My kid doesn't race but we used to do 50+ days/season until he went off to college.

post #10 of 13

Season rentals can be a good way to go for some kids.  In some cases, on-the-mountain rentals are the way to go.  A boot that becomes unbearably uncomfortable after 30 minutes can be a real problem if the rental place is off-site.  I did the math early on and realized that buying new was cheaper than a season of on-site rentals.  That, plus the hand-me-down thing, made it easy to buy.  And, my kids don't seem to trash gear like @alexzn's kids.

 

By the way, a sloppy binding is a binding with a significant amount of "slop" which is the technical term for looseness or wiggle.  Typically, rental bindings have a fair amount of slop due to the adjustment mechanisms.  Kids' equipment can be worse, as nobody seems to care about it very much.  If the binding is sloppy and the boot is cushy, the ski seems to go where it will, rather than where the kid tries to maneuver it.

post #11 of 13

An idealist in me wants to see every kid on race-quality gear, and wearing GoreTex pants and mittens, and a POC helmet.  Because to grow to love the sport your skis have to be able to grip, your hands have to be warm, your butt has to be dry, and your brain protected.  But that's a very idealistic view of things.  I have never seen a decent tune on a kids season rental, but of course YMMV.   

post #12 of 13

Your kids are 3 and 5. It is silly to doing anything more than hitting a local swap or go with an annual rental. It's nearly impossible to fit boots into kids this age perfectly (and there is no need to be). If they aren't complaining and they don't look too sloppy, you're good to go. As for skis, just get the shortest ones you can find for the lowest cost. With the 3yo, you can even do the plastic ones.

post #13 of 13
I seem to be lucky where I live. We have a ski shop that sells kids skis volkl for $189 and will switch them out every season with a similar conditioned used ski and charge you a $25 binding adjustment fee. Boots I buy used for $40-50 and can sell them back for half of what I paid and use it to buy another used boot. This is a way I get nice gear and spend $50 per kid. It's nice because he will buy us out when we grow out of youth skis.
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