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I will confirm that when qcanoe was at Jackson the ice there was legit. (lol) Subscribers to ICE Magazine would've been fairly pleased and large sections would have ranked probably 7-8/10 and ten is still argued about even amongst the editors. ( My ten would be top of National at Stowe in a Jan clinic with Ms Marshall at 4:15. It was a brief experience as the ice cap was covered sliding face first at high speed. Basicall was Home Depot floor level. But we digress....)
Anyway, MX83 was quite good there. In many spots there were powderish moguls with sudden revelations of high quality ice. Fx84 1st gen was pretty useless on that and I would just assume slide down or avoid. Mx went right across.
Skied the 173 with .75/3. I'd probably go down to .5 at least to try.
I know dawg has gone to lengthy ends to say how long a running surface it has. For me it's def short but I'm over 200. Alas they still don't offer a 5cm increment, prefering to tell you to change models. (Ok, you've had years to remedy the situation, every dealer has told you the same story, and... nada. Just more idiocy from an amoeba brained ski industry.)
On the lift @liquidfeet held up her 168 Fx74 1st gen. next to my 173 Mx 83. Her comment: "They need to learn how to measure." Didn't look that diff.
Big surprise was Mx is pretty good on moguls. MadRiver doesn't really let you not ski moguls so there was plenty of opportunity.
The Titan to me is somewhat ponderous. My though usually on the 170 demo was "Can it really be this much work to tip an 84mm ski?" Well I looked and it's only 80 so it's worse than that. I suppose I could get used to it but why bother? Maybe it's a western thing.
Spent the day yesterday on a properly tuned 170 Rally.(.75/3 and flat base) Nice ski. It's a bit light for me however it was damn fun carving turns on ice. It will hold. Great feel, easy to ski, very changeable turn radii. Didn't do many bumps they were rock hard refrozen with frozen buffets on top. It did ok in the one run I did on that. Feeling is that most people should be on a ski like this. People tend to ski overly stiff skis. I did spend a couple years owning the older Magnum in 170 which was extremely soft. That had superb snow feel on packed or firm powder. Not an ice hound or speed demon though. (ICE Mag would fail it)
The feel of the Rally is pretty much the sound you get from clacking the tips on the lift. Slightly damp, not overly rigid. It's a sensitive ski. I'd love to see a beefier version of this ski that would compete with the Kastle for less. The rep was trying to say the Titan kind of does that and there's some truth to it but it's much wider and so bleh.