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Hi guys! Im a woman 23 yrs old im 5'5 (166 cm)  and my weight im around 123 lbs. I have chosen the armada TSTw as my new pair of skis. Im going to vail the whole season to work there as a ski instructor (the skis are not for teaching) but my main problem is which size should i pick, some people tell me that 156 cm is good for me but some people tell me to pick the 165 ones, I really want an all mountain ski that i can use in powder but also in the hard pack. I have great recommendations on this skis but deciding the size has been difficult for me! 

 

hope you can help me out!

 

Bye!! 

post #2 of 16
My 12 yo 5'0" is on the 156 tantrums and could easily go up a size if that helps. I think the tantrums are a little more rockered but not sure about that.
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Hi guys! Im a woman 23 yrs old im 5'5 (166 cm)  and my weight im around 123 lbs. I have chosen the armada TSTw as my new pair of skis. Im going to vail the whole season to work there as a ski instructor (the skis are not for teaching) but my main problem is which size should i pick, some people tell me that 156 cm is good for me but some people tell me to pick the 165 ones, I really want an all mountain ski that i can use in powder but also in the hard pack. I have great recommendations on this skis but deciding the size has been difficult for me! 

hope you can help me out!

Bye!! 

165, no question. They ski very short. I am 5' 7" 135 and question sometimes whether my 174cm TST might be too short.
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Originally Posted by paulatorti View Post

Hi guys! Im a woman 23 yrs old im 5'5 (166 cm)  and my weight im around 123 lbs. I have chosen the armada TSTw as my new pair of skis. Im going to vail the whole season to work there as a ski instructor (the skis are not for teaching) but my main problem is which size should i pick, some people tell me that 156 cm is good for me but some people tell me to pick the 165 ones, I really want an all mountain ski that i can use in powder but also in the hard pack. I have great recommendations on this skis but deciding the size has been difficult for me! 

hope you can help me out!

Bye!! 

165, no question. They ski very short. I am 5' 7" 135 and question sometimes whether my 174cm TST might be too short.


As another reference, I'm an older woman, 5'0", 120 lbs, advanced, and ski 159cm Black Pearls.

 

@paulatorti : what length skis have you been using for free skiing?  What region did you ski?

post #5 of 16
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Hey @qcanoe. What do you mean when you say they ski very short!?

@marznc the last skis i used they teacher my nose but i wanted yo go fafter And in powder they were so unstable
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Hey @qcanoe. What do you mean when you say they ski very short!?
 

 

'Short for its length' is kinda like  "young for his or her age". 

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Hey @qcanoe. What do you mean when you say they ski very short!?

@marznc the last skis i used they teacher my nose but i wanted yo go fafter And in powder they were so unstable


Yeah, nose height is probably short for someone who can ski powder, meaning 6+ inches of ungroomed.

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Hey @qcanoe. What do you mean when you say they ski very short!?

 

'Short for its length' is kinda like  "young for his or her age". 
Ahem. Skis that 'ski short' are generally those with rocker/early rise/reverse camber, though (in my limited understanding) the shape of the tip and tail might affect how they feel in turns.

Regardless, I'm pretty confident that you'd prefer the 165s. If you're an expert you might even want to size up.

BTW, is there any chance you can wait to demo the different lengths before buying? That's the surest way to know for sure.
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Originally Posted by paulatorti View Post

Hey @qcanoe. What do you mean when you say they ski very short!?

 

'Short for its length' is kinda like  "young for his or her age". 
Ahem. Skis that 'ski short' are generally those with rocker/early rise/reverse camber, though (in my limited understanding) the shape of the tip and tail might affect how they feel in turns.

 

I'm not really comfortable pinning a description of overall feel on the presence or absence of a specific design feature.   

 

There are quite a few more variables than rocker/camber;  skis 'skied short' and 'skied long' even when the market didn't really have any rocker or reverse camber offerings so purchasers  couldn't really form expectations based on those technologies.    If we can find conventionally cambered skis that ski shorter for their length than significantly rockered ones then pinning feel to technology even becomes misleading.

 

(*puts on story telling hat* There was this one time I skied vintage-2005 Salomon XScreams back to back with first-year Blizzard Bonafides.  Yep, the Sollys definitely skied 'shorter' than the Bones, except the Bones they had this mad tip flap, so they did...so I was trying not to outrun my then-gf and went into these trees looking for soft stuff to engage the tips and kinda waste time so she could catch up...)


Edited by cantunamunch - 11/24/14 at 10:55pm
post #10 of 16
@cantunamunch, I, who have skied for all of four Seasons and owned or demoed only a handful of skis, most humbly defer to your expertise. And the expertise of just about anyone else on these forums, now that I think of it.
post #11 of 16
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Well guys thanks! Im Pretty sure im gong with the 165 im just two cm longer that the skis im afraid that the 156 might be too short for me, i will hace plenty of time to get used to them i,ve Been skiing all my life since i was 5 so i think i have experience

So you think i decided the right length?
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Well guys thanks! Im Pretty sure im gong with the 165 im just two cm longer that the skis im afraid that the 156 might be too short for me, i will hace plenty of time to get used to them i,ve Been skiing all my life since i was 5 so i think i have experience

So you think i decided the right length?


All I can go on is my personal experience from recent years after I started skiing more out west.  I agree that 156cm seems short for 5'5", 123 lbs.  I'm five inches shorter and usually fine on any demo ski 158-162 that's over 80 underfoot.

 

Make the purchase and go have fun.  Can always sell them and find something better later.

post #13 of 16

Even 165 is a touch short for that ski; it has a pronounced front rocker. 156 is a non-starter. 

post #14 of 16

I'm your same height, but a fair bit heavier.  I have a new pair of TSTw's this season, mine are the 165s.  I must say that I love my VJJs (also 165cm) more than I like the TSTs.  The TSTs do hold an edge better on the hardpack, though.

post #15 of 16

Incidentally, this year's TST and TSTw are not listed with carbon stringers, which I thought they've had previously. Anyone know if this is a design change or a website error by Armada or I'm just misremembering? 

post #16 of 16

The Blister Gear Review has an editor's note that states the TST is unchanged other than graphics from 12/13, 13/14, and 14/15.

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