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Rossignol Soul 7 or Dynastar Cham 107 for telemark

Poll Results: Rossignol Soul 7 or Dynastar Cham 107

 
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    Rossignol Soul 7
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    Dynastar Cham 107
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post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 

Hi.

 

I have this horrible dilemma on which of these two skis to choose for telemark.

Due to availability, Rossignol Soul 7 and the Dynastar Cham 107 are the two skis it's come down to.

 

Where in the world are you skiing: Norway, Myrkdalen

What kinds of terrain do you prefer: Powder snow, off tracks

How many days a year do you ski: 30-50

How advanced are you as a skier: Intermediate/Advance

What's your height and weight: 184 cm, 65 kg

 

Can someone with any experience with either of both of these skis give me some advice?

It would be much appreciated!

 

I have Scarpa TX PRO and NTN bindings.

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post #2 of 19
You're tall and light. I'd go with the soul 7. The regular Cham 107 is extremely stiff from the mid body of the ski to the tail. The HM (high mountain) without the metal would be better if you really ad to have a Cham. Personally, I think the Cham and Cham HM 97 and 107, while nice, like to lock into a particular turn shape/radius that's a bit difficult to break the ski out of once you've started a turn. The Cham 117 on the other hand would make a fine telemark powder ski IMHO, but that's another conversation. At your size and weight, the soul should make a really nice teley ski. You're only dilemma is deciding which length to ski, but your ability level says the 180 might be the best choice. It skis a bit short, and you have a nice power train (boot and binding) to drive it. An expert at your size and weight might even prefer the 188. Anyhow, good luck! I think there's a black ski with a yellow tip in your future! smile.gif
post #3 of 19
Thread Starter 

Thanks for your great reply!

Yeah I must say the Soul 7 is the most tempting one, but the guys at our local store keeps telling me the Cham is the better choice, mainly because they haven't tried the Soul 7 yet.

Another thing is that they have a very good price at the Cham 107 now, $440, whereas the Souls 7 is around $888. So the Soul 7 is twice the price of the Cham 107...

post #4 of 19
The Cham is also incredibly heavy. My guess is they have a lot of Chams in inventory to sell... Or a sales contest.
post #5 of 19

I have no numbers to back be up but I skied both the Cham 97 HM and the Soul 7 in Down hill.  the Cham is stiffer and heavier .  I found the Soul 7 light and playful. (too light for Alpine gear in my opinion) I've been tele skiing since the 70's and thought the soul 7 would make a great tele ski.  I know here on Utah the soul 7 is setup with Tele  bindings quite often.

 

Royal

post #6 of 19
Thread Starter 

OK it seems like the Soul 7 is the recommended one in here.

 

As markojp says, choosing the right size is an dilemma. I feel like 180 cm is a bit short, but 188 cm is a bit long. They both are +- 4 from my height. 

 

I think I'm leaning a bit towards the 188 cm, but haven't decided yet...

post #7 of 19
The 188 won't kill you especially with your boot / binding. If you're skiing more open terrain, I'd do the 188.
post #8 of 19
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Originally Posted by Jurge92 View Post
Another thing is that they have a very good price at the Cham 107 now, $440, whereas the Souls 7 is around $888.

A bit off topic but might come handy if you decide for Soul 7. Check a bit around Europe, and order them through internet ;) You can get them for about 400eur without binding plus some 20eur shipping. That is much less then mentioned $888.

post #9 of 19
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by primoz View Post
 

A bit off topic but might come handy if you decide for Soul 7. Check a bit around Europe, and order them through internet ;) You can get them for about 400eur without binding plus some 20eur shipping. That is much less then mentioned $888.

 

I appreciate the tip, but here in Norway we have to pay customs to everything over 200 NOK (~€23/$29). That is 25% in VAT and some additional postage fees when collecting the package. So the total price will be roughly €550 when I receive the skis.

 

I actually managed to get the price for the Soul 7 at our local store down to €580 with bindings and active ski prep. On top of that, it is possible I'll get additional 25% off the €580 due to the bank running a promotion in that store, but can't tell for sure until a few weeks.

 

They also told me if I didn't like the skis I could just come back and change them in another size or even the Cham 97 HM. So I think I got of pretty great. Their service is amazing.

 

I'm really looking forward to trying them out!


Edited by Jurge92 - 11/20/14 at 3:12am
post #10 of 19

Really? I thought this deal Norway has with EU extends also for this. I didn't know you need to pay for custom when getting stuff from EU. Ok then my tip was useless, as paying custom and VAT would easily "eat" that price difference.

post #11 of 19
Thread Starter 

Unfortunately it doesn't apply for import of any goods from countries outside of Norway, not even Sweden and Denmark...

post #12 of 19
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Originally Posted by primoz View Post
 

Really? I thought this deal Norway has with EU extends also for this. I didn't know you need to pay for custom when getting stuff from EU. Ok then my tip was useless, as paying custom and VAT would easily "eat" that price difference.


There's actually quite a lot of stuff that is worth importing to Norway, especially from Germany - places like Sport Conrad for ski gear and BikeDiscount.de (H+S) for bike gear are cheap enough to make it worthwhile. If they use the DeutschePost-owned DHL service then the shipping (typically €15 or maybe a bit more for a bike or skis) includes the customs paperwork and handling charges. The German VAT at 17% is deducted from the price we pay, Then we pay 25% Norwegian VAT on the cost of goods plus postage. At the current rates, the VAT-free Euro price, times 10, is roughly what we end up paying in Norwegian kroner.

 

But sometimes you can get a really good deal locally here, like Jurge did.

post #13 of 19

As I wrote, I didn't know about customs. I though with those deals Norway and EU have, it would be for you guys sort of same as it's for us inside of EU. But obviously I was wrong, and I never had something what I would order from Norway... for Swix stuff I just deal straight with friend who is Swix serviceman in WC :D Otherwise yes, Sport Conrad was one I saw those Soul 7 for pretty good price, and Bike discount is place where I normally get 80% of my mtb stuff anyway, as it's in most cases a lot cheaper then anything else.... so much cheaper that probably even custom and those 8% of extra VAT would still make it worth.

post #14 of 19
Thread Starter 
Does anyone know if the NTN binding should be placed at center 0, or at -2?


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post #15 of 19
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Originally Posted by Jurge92 View Post

Does anyone know if the NTN binding should be placed at center 0, or at -2?
 

 

I'd recommend boot center on the mark.  -2 is old-school tele mounting.  

post #16 of 19

 I still like it a bit aft... depends on the ski a bit though. OP, boot center for tele boots is from the back edge of the heel to the middle pin in a 75mm norm boot.

post #17 of 19
Thread Starter 
Alright, thanks for reply.
I think they are placed at center.

I took some photos of how the bindings are placed at the skis. Do you guys think it's correct?

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They told me at the shop that they would change the position of the bindings for free if I weren't happy with how they are. So I just want to be sure while I still have that chance.


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post #18 of 19
I can't see the boot center mark in the pictures.
post #19 of 19

Although not really visible, as Bob said, the approximate center mark (based on my recollection) on those TX Pros falls at about the ski mark (0).

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