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Roto brush faceguard?

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 
I've found a deal on a set of used Briko-Maplus roto brushes with the axle and handle; the brushes are worn, but the axle and handle are in good shape.

It seems that they don't make a guard/shield for it, and the seller says that guards made by other manufacturers don't fit on it. I'm wondering about this, because the Briko-Maplus setup is compatible with Toko/Red Creek, Swix, and (I think) Kuu. My questions:

1. Do I really need a guard? That is, would the brush fling wax particles around and into my face without one?
2. Any opinions on whether another guard might work?
post #2 of 9

Never used one myself, but I've seen plenty of people roto-brushing without any apparent guards on the brushes and they didn't seem to be getting pelted. If I'm wrong about that and you can't get a guard for the brushes, you could always get something like this for your face:

3M Combination H8A Ratchet Headgear and WP96 Polycarbonate Faceshield

post #3 of 9
I have the same set up; Briko-Maplus roto tools with no guard. Have been using it for years. No issues. However, I wear glasses.

I fi remember correctly, the concern isn't over wax dust coming at you but brush bristles breaking free. Especially the brass ones.

I I had to do over again, I would get the guard.
post #4 of 9

Guards are nice. The certainly keep any projectile particulate at bay, but as long as you keep that brushing rotating away from you can mitigate face shots. I work with the shovels pointed to my right and with the brush rotating in the direction of the tail so that I'm pushing the rotobrush away from me. I watch some of my guys pull the brush towards them, which would be a face shot invite if you didn't have a guard. 

post #5 of 9
Got a guard. Well worth it as it confines the spray mostly to the top of the bench and not all over the room.
post #6 of 9

My roto-brush handles do not have built in guards for single reason - the quick change feature. 

If you have reservations, go with a pair of safety glasses and stay out of the comet tail of flying debris. 

 

The scraper should remove the majority of the wax from the ski base. If your roto-brush is kicking up large amount of debris then the scraper hasn't completed it's assigned task.      

post #7 of 9
Personally I don't wear eye protection using non-guard roto handles with nylon or HH brushes. But guard or not, it's a good idea to wear safety glasses when using metal brushes.

I prefer to brush tail to tip, with brush rotating toward tail. If you brush tip to tail, you end up brushing debris back into the base. Using water helps reduce overheating as well.

Handles like holmenkol and swix have a quick disconnect. This is so you don't have to remove the drill, every time you change brushes. Repeated drill removals will wear the end of the shaft over a period of time, resulting in the drill not being able to have a good purchase on the shaft.

Happy roto-ing!!
post #8 of 9
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chenzo View Post

Personally I don't wear eye protection using non-guard roto handles with nylon or HH brushes. But guard or not, it's a good idea to wear safety glasses when using metal brushes.

I prefer to brush tail to tip, with brush rotating toward tail. If you brush tip to tail, you end up brushing debris back into the base. Using water helps reduce overheating as well.

Handles like holmenkol and swix have a quick disconnect. This is so you don't have to remove the drill, every time you change brushes. Repeated drill removals will wear the end of the shaft over a period of time, resulting in the drill not being able to have a good purchase on the shaft.

Happy roto-ing!!

You know. I completely forgot about the quick change aspect. And you are right. I would rather have that than a guard.

If anyone is worried about getting junk in their eye, I think the risk is low. After a few tears of use, i have never had anything go near my eyes. Doesn't mean it won't happen.

Something you can do is position yourself so the debris goes away from you. Whether you have the ski tip to the right or left doesn't matter. The drill should be reversible. I have the ski tip pointing to the left and I like having the drill on Forward for higher rpms so they shoot at me. Still, never had an issue with things going at my eyes.
Edited by L&AirC - 11/15/14 at 2:47pm
post #9 of 9
Thread Starter 
Excellent advice from all. I usually use Rx glasses or safety glasses when running any tool that spreads debris around, but still I'm kinda paranoid about getting stuff in my dry and sensitive eyes. Besides, just keeping those tiny particles directed downward instead of broadcasting them around makes a guard more sensible than not.

Now that I'm not going to buy it I'll reveal that the set is listed at Slidewright.com for $84.55, and includes:
  • Briko-Maplus 10cm x 10mm Standard Roto Brush Hex Shaft
  • Briko-Maplus Quick Grip handle
  • Toko (Red Creek)/Briko-Maplus or Swix Brass, Nylon and Horsehair combo
  • Mounts in any standard drill chuck

The listing says the set was "used for several seasons in fair shape." Terry wrote this in response to my question about the condition of the axle and handle:
Quote:
The handle and shaft are in good shape and will last a long time. The quick grip handles cannot use a shield like fixed shaft roto brushes but it can be used with typical 10mm hexagon brushes like Swix, Toko, Red Creek.

The Briko-Maplus axle and handle alone would cost between $80 and $90, so it seems like an awesome deal for a complete roto setup with a quick release handle.
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