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Banned for four years!

post #1 of 14
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Reading the kids in racing thread and what pops up on my screen?  This story:

 

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collections/special/columns/comparing_notes/archive/2014/11/vanessa-mae_ban.shtml?WT.mc_id=73165189242e75ca50e546b56876350d

 

Clearly her parents didn't get her started early enough!

post #2 of 14

you don't need to start 'em early if you have money and can bribe/pay off the IOC

post #3 of 14
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Originally Posted by waxman View Post
 

you don't need to start 'em early if you have money and can bribe/pay off the IOC


Wait, you're saying the IOC is corruptible?!?!!  Noooo....  :ROTF

post #4 of 14

Much better for her that she's having problems with her skiing side.  This is one of the very few cases where it makes the most sense to choose a career in music.

post #5 of 14

Those Tiger Moms.

post #6 of 14

The races were organized at the request of Vanessa Vanakorn's management group and the Thai Olympic Committee to try and get her qualified for the Sochi Olympics. She was the only skier banned.

 

In the race were she got her points down to 131 it seems that there were only 9 skiers.

http://data.fis-ski.com/dynamic/results.html?sector=AL&competitorid=168683&raceid=78549

 

She has raced in 19 FIS races. In the 4 races in Krvavec over 2 days, her points are well below her norms.

http://data.fis-ski.com/dynamic/athlete-biography.html?sector=AL&competitorid=168683&type=result&category=ALL&season=ALL&sort=&discipline=ALL&position=&place=&Submit=Search&limit=50

post #7 of 14
What gets me is that the officials were in general only suspended for one year. This is their job? They should lose it! If a bank teller helped someone rob a bank, they'd never get a job involving money again!
post #8 of 14
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

What gets me is that the officials were in general only suspended for one year. This is their job? They should lose it! If a bank teller helped someone rob a bank, they'd never get a job involving money again!


You're confusing the IOC with reality..  :)

post #9 of 14

IOC has nothing to do with all this ;) It's FIS thing, and to some extent Slovenia ski federation thing. Reality is, these things are happening and basically it's pretty much standard thing, everywhere on world. Normally not for such big names (even if "big name" is not related to skiing) but it's reality, and noone gives a sh**t about it. Another thing is, most likely nothing wouldn't happen, if Slovene ski federation wouldn't be joggling with these things because of some internal affairs, trying to screw some people internally. They gave suspensions (mostly 4 years) to all these guys some half year ago already, while on other side keeping most of them in their jobs (Vlado Makuc is still employed by Slovenia ski fed. traveling around with Slovenia WC team as chief of alpine racing program, even though he got 4 years ban from exactly same ski federation which employes him as chief of alpine program... strange? not really that's how things work in this business :rolleyes). But stirring things too much, and all of a sudden things got interested for FIS, so some half year later, FIS started to look into this, and current bans are result of this.

PS: I guess only one who really doesn't care at all about this is Vanessa Mae. She got her goal, she was racing in Olympics, and I really doubt she would ever ski between gates in her life even with no ban.
PS #2: Half of guys banned don't have this as job. Actually noone of these guys is employed on function they were banned from. Some of them are employed on Slovenia ski federation, but these functions are parttime/volunteer "jobs". TD on race is paid, but I don't know anyone who would be doing it professionally (actually make living out of being TD). Same goes, at least on this side of ocean, for starters, race directors etc.

post #10 of 14

I'm going to give the answer as an athlete (past)  and as an senior official (present), both mind you not in skiing though, but the same applies.

 

Officials for the most part are volunteers and you don't want to piss them off to badly or you won't have any.  The corrupt/poor officials get identified and are generally shunned from future events by organizers so a 1 year suspension is usually sufficient to weed out the extremely bad crop (for the most part).  It is difficult to get sufficient officials run events.

 

With athletes if they have the time they usually have to let in, which is way the penalties are stiffer.  (Athletes are dime a dozen).

 

Also, remember the athletes get the glory (trophies and monies) and the officials don't.

post #11 of 14

I will be in Thailand for a week in December.  Where do I sign up for their national ski team?  I have credentials- I qualified for NASTAR nationals, LOL...

 

Also, what's this about forgiving 10 seconds for falling down?  I'd like to sign up for that too. :D

post #12 of 14

Hey she obviously didn't pluck the right strings - better stick to the violin.

post #13 of 14

I'd never heard of her before now - apparently she makes a lot of money as a "Hot Violin Player" and she wanted to also be a "Hot Female Skier".

 

I'm sure a lot of competent, average looking skiers and musicians don't appreciate how far "hotness" goes in relation to talent. In this world it's nice to be be born wealthy and good looking.

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I'd never heard of her before now - apparently she makes a lot of money as a "Hot Violin Player" and she wanted to also be a "Hot Female Skier".

 

I'm sure a lot of competent, average looking skiers and musicians don't appreciate how far "hotness" goes in relation to talent. In this world it's nice to be be born wealthy and good looking.


I suspect that it's a lot easier to be the hottest violin player than the hottest skier.  Being born wealthy and good looking is about average for ski racers.  for example, Julia Mancuso:

 

 

BK

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