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Not sure I suggest anything at all in this regard...
Sounds like the calendars also had a positive impact on you.
 


Are you trying to be an ass?

 

I kind of wondered if your previous question was a creepy attempt at victim shaming or blaming. Now I am reasonably convinced..


Edited by spindrift - 11/14/14 at 8:47pm
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Always wear proper protective gear when working on your skis.  I think she looks a bit like the girl that had skis painted on her.

 

 

 

People see what they want to see. 

 

Take the above photo for example. My initial reaction is "Damn the lighting really sucks, I can't see a thing".

Then I imported it into PhotoShop and cleaned up the lighting. So I can see what is going on. The first thing I noticed was the B&D (no, not that B&D - get your mind out of the gutter) Workmate, I haven't seen one of those in a while and how it makes for a bad tuning bench. The next thing I see is the pair of Rossi in the middle on the wall - A pair I always wanted. Then I moved onto the Dynamic - thinking Amer bought Dynamic and they don't sell them in the US anymore. After that I zoomed in on the grey pair on the left of the long Rossi and thought about all the Lacroix ski I used to see on the slope at Stratton back in the late '70 & early '80. The model was the last thing I looked at and the first thing I noticed about her was the length of the apron - too long for my taste. I like my aprons to end above my knees. Maybe I'm getting old and/or maybe I didn't come to Epic to look for porn. Ski-porn maybe but not porn-porn.

 

You see what you want to see. :cool

 

PS. Mrs.Grump just walked up while I'm typing this post with the photo on a separate screen and said "Wow, she's hot". I'm so disappointed at her due to her reaction. She didn't see either the old Workmate or the skis on the wall. What kind of skier did I really marry. :D   

Truth, @Trekchick said she was hot too..I saw all the bindings that were missing from my collection. I guess we all have our priorities. 

post #93 of 107
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Originally Posted by jzamp View Post
 

Not sure I suggest anything at all in this regard...
Sounds like the calendars also had a positive impact on you.
 


Are you trying to be an ass?

 

I kind of wondered if your previous question was a creepy attempt at victim shaming or blaming. Now I am reasonably convinced..

you don't find those qualities to be valuable? I do, simple as that.

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And what did you do about it?
This was in the 80s, and as you suggested, girlie calendars were the norm. Even mentioning them earned me things like harassment ranging from verbal abuse to getting physically cornered and groped, along with restriction from choice assignments or interesting work. Of course, at that time (the 80's) I had to deal with that shit anyway simply because I was there.


But I was damned if they were going to force me out, because I loved living in and near national parks and getting paid to work and play in the most beautiful places in the world. So what did I do? I avoided it when I could and endured it when I couldn't. I also trained myself out of acting feminine so as to present less of a target, cultivated physical and mental toughness, learned to watch my back, and kept myself as physically strong and able as anyone my size could possibly be.
Not sure I suggest anything at all in this regard...

Sounds like the calendars also had a positive impact on you.
Bullshit. jzamp, I know you can do better than that. Or I think I know you can. Or maybe it's just wishful thinking.

Hiding my personality under brambles and thickets meant that all relationships were based on a lie, and my obsession with physical toughness stopped me from seeking help for my labral tear until many years later when I could no longer use my arm at all. The bottom line is that sex discrimination at work is as wrong and pernicious as race discrimination. The only positive impact my experience had was on women who succeeded me, because I broke the gender barrier in those particular places.


OK, hijack over.
post #95 of 107
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This has been fun but I am going real skiing tomorrow - Loveland it is! Let the winter begin!

 

I am happy for you and I'm a little annoyed that you're skiing and I'm not. 

 

Dang we need snow. :snowfall

post #96 of 107
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I am happy for you and I'm a little annoyed that you're skiing and I'm not. 

 

Dang we need snow. :snowfall


Yup.  I saw a depressing snow map that showed precip in every state except Cali and Nevada.  Sigh! and AGAIN  Sigh!

post #97 of 107
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This has been fun but I am going real skiing tomorrow - Loveland it is! Let the winter begin!

I am happy for you and I'm a little annoyed that you're skiing and I'm not. 

Dang we need snow. snowfalling.gif
Me too. At least we've had some snow, and it's plenty cold for snowmaking, meaning our WROD won't be nearly as deadly as it could be. So I'm counting myself lucky. I'll cross my fingers for you guys, though. redface.gif
post #98 of 107
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And what did you do about it?
This was in the 80s, and as you suggested, girlie calendars were the norm. Even mentioning them earned me things like harassment ranging from verbal abuse to getting physically cornered and groped, along with restriction from choice assignments or interesting work. Of course, at that time (the 80's) I had to deal with that shit anyway simply because I was there.


But I was damned if they were going to force me out, because I loved living in and near national parks and getting paid to work and play in the most beautiful places in the world. So what did I do? I avoided it when I could and endured it when I couldn't. I also trained myself out of acting feminine so as to present less of a target, cultivated physical and mental toughness, learned to watch my back, and kept myself as physically strong and able as anyone my size could possibly be.
Not sure I suggest anything at all in this regard...

Sounds like the calendars also had a positive impact on you.
Bullshit. jzamp, I know you can do better than that. Or I think I know you can. Or maybe it's just wishful thinking.

Hiding my personality under brambles and thickets meant that all relationships were based on a lie, and my obsession with physical toughness stopped me from seeking help for my labral tear until many years later when I could no longer use my arm at all. The bottom line is that sex discrimination at work is as wrong and pernicious as race discrimination. The only positive impact my experience had was on women who succeeded me, because I broke the gender barrier in those particular places.


OK, hijack over.

It forced you to make a change, a change that ultimately led to better things for those who followed you. This happened because you made a strong choice, right or wrong you made it.
You could have said nothing and did nothing, be passive about it. Or you could have been be active, you could have left, put up male calendars, fight it, change, etc.
You choose to change your persona to "survive" because you loved what you did, this is not an easy thing to do, and it takes "balls", and I do believe it made you better.
You were under pressure and decided to step up, I find this to be remarkable.

Which is why I asked the original question.

 

BTW gender discrimination is more noticeable in male vs female but it happens both ways, albeit not as much. It also happens in male vs male and female vs female. What really matters is how each individual reacts to it.

Done for the night.

Sorry for the long OT.
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post #99 of 107
Sorry, I'm not going to agree that discrimination breeds virtue or strength in those who are subjected to it. And I guess that's all I've got to say about it.

I suggest we let it rest.

/hijack
post #100 of 107

Maybe these guys will restore harmony to the universe.

post #101 of 107
Why is no one surprised that such a clueless publication as playboy actually has a video that is pretty technically accurate. I bet the models in the shot were going like " WTF is this? Waxing...skis??? Why would anyone even needs to do this?"
For everyone offended or interested in real ski tuning there are Starthaus tuning videos. No offense to Jim Schaffner, but although his videos can't quite compete with playboys version on the visuals, but I'd take ski tuning lessons from him any day (and certainly over Playboy's version).
post #102 of 107
Thread's no longer fun or funny.
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Originally Posted by jzamp View Post

It forced you to make a change, a change that ultimately led to better things for those who followed you. This happened because you made a strong choice, right or wrong you made it.

You could have said nothing and did nothing, be passive about it. Or you could have been be active, you could have left, put up male calendars, fight it, change, etc.

You choose to change your persona to "survive" because you loved what you did, this is not an easy thing to do, and it takes "balls", and I do believe it made you better.

You were under pressure and decided to step up, I find this to be remarkable.
Which is why I asked the original question.

BTW gender discrimination is more noticeable in male vs female but it happens both ways, albeit not as much. It also happens in male vs male and female vs female. What really matters is how each individual reacts to it.


Done for the night.


Sorry for the long OT.
hijack2.gif  


With respect, simple survival doesn't always make one better. It only makes them better at survival. Let's not confuse quality and quantity.
post #103 of 107
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Thread's no longer fun or funny.
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Originally Posted by jzamp View Post

It forced you to make a change, a change that ultimately led to better things for those who followed you. This happened because you made a strong choice, right or wrong you made it.

You could have said nothing and did nothing, be passive about it. Or you could have been be active, you could have left, put up male calendars, fight it, change, etc.

You choose to change your persona to "survive" because you loved what you did, this is not an easy thing to do, and it takes "balls", and I do believe it made you better.

You were under pressure and decided to step up, I find this to be remarkable.
Which is why I asked the original question.

BTW gender discrimination is more noticeable in male vs female but it happens both ways, albeit not as much. It also happens in male vs male and female vs female. What really matters is how each individual reacts to it.


Done for the night.


Sorry for the long OT.
hijack2.gif  


With respect, simple survival doesn't always make one better. It only makes them better at survival. Let's not confuse quality and quantity.

I guess this is why we can't have nice things. It's just skiing, folks, relax. nonono2.gif
post #104 of 107
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Now we know what Jacques needs to do to make his videos more watchable.
Maybe we could take up a collection and get him a tutu?
If you saw his wife.
post #105 of 107

Wow - it was either move this thread again (to politics and hot topics) or lock it. I'm locking it. 

post #106 of 107
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Now we know what Jacques needs to do to make his videos more watchable.
Maybe we could take up a collection and get him a tutu?
If you saw his wife.


She says thank you Slider!

post #107 of 107
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Wow - it was either move this thread again (to politics and hot topics) or lock it. I'm locking it. 

If you don't close the door when you lock it, it won't work.
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