Originally Posted by freeski919
Originally Posted by habacomike
Perhaps I don't quite understand what you mean by starting the process with your uphill ski, but I'll say that the warning lights go off for me on that beginning of movement. Extending off of the uphill ski sounds to me like a rotary push off, and that movement is one that will lead to a fail in PSIA-RM. As @freeski919 stated above, the first thing that has to happen is that the hip has to move over the downhill ski to allow the edges to release. The pivot is a simultaneous rotation of both femurs starting from the feet up. If you push off of the uphill ski, you are going to have a 1-2 move where first the uphill ski pivots then the downhill ski, and that leads to a divergence of the two skis.
Of course, I could be misunderstanding what you mean by extending off of the uphill ski...
I don't think he is promoting a rotary push off. The move to release your edges needs to come before your start any rotary move. They're separate. Whether you release your edges by pushing down on your LTE, or by extending the uphill leg, or retracting your feet under you, that is a distinct move. Only once your edges are released can you execute any rotary motion. If you try to combine the edge release maneuver with the rotary motion of the pivot, you're going to get a direction change, which is what you want to avoid in a pivot slip.
Talk about doing a release in pivot slips has never made much sense to me.
There is no need for a release if the edges never engage.
Pivot slipping down the hill indicates that the skis are in a constant state of release, right?
If you are over them and they are under you and they are not stuck in the snow, you can pivot them in any direction you want, when you want.
That said, if the skis are stuck in the snow for some reason (very shallow pitch, deep snow, sticky snow), then you do have to release them before pivoting them.
If the skis get in front of you, in either understanding of "in front," you'll need to release.
Maybe you folks out west who have softer snow much of the time need to release.
I tend to find myself doing pivot slips on icy surfaces; that makes them very very easy.
freeski919, you are at Steaux which we all know has superior, super soft snow for New England, yes?
Is this why you do a release in pivot slips?
Or maybe I do a release and don't know it.