Originally Posted by mogsie
There is 2 choices here:
a- you're making a joke
b- you've never tried the new skis since you bought your bata carves...
Even if you're weighting 235 pounds; 191 cm is way too much! I don't even know why they make the Mantra in that lenght???
I know the 2015 Mantra is softer than my 2014 but I think you should have go with the 184 cm... Especially if you want it as an all mountain ski and be able to have fun in trees and bumps as well...
Your some what rude comment or at least unknowing comment makes me feel I need to respond and explain why I like what I do in ski sizes.
I have skied on a good number of different skis at demo days, and swapped skis with friends to try theirs out.
I got a new pair of Race Tigers last year and also have have a pair of Katanas190's, and despite what you may think they are all in the longest lengths they make them in, and I have NO Problem even in bumps with them. The Bata Carves are Very stiff and out dated that is the issue, I wanted to get a all mountain free ski to replace them.
Short skis are not stable to me and do not hold up when there is a need for speed. I am a strong person with big legs for one thing, lots of meat on these bones, so long skis are not an issue for me. I also know how to ski. I do not care or pretend to be the best skier there is, and I am not a kid, but I have skied for many years, and often with some very good skiers, and do well for an old guy. I used to do a lot of old school air tricks on 207's, I also have been in ski patrol, a ski instructor, and finished in the top group in my race league finishing 4th to19th out of 150 racers, so I am not a gapper. Before shaped skis I skied on 205's, 207s,210s and 215's skis , so 191 is a short ski for me.
A longer ski may be an issue for you, I do not know if you are good skier or not, how big or strong you are, or what the conditions you ski are, so I will not presume to know what you should be skiing on. I will not be disrespectful as you were.
I skied in New England as a kid and it is a bumpy mess there with crowded narrow trails and I skied on long skis there. If I had to ski back there I most likely would have to ski slower and around people, through mountains of bumps, and may consider shorter skis, but I ski out west where I can let them rip all I want. Where the bumps build you can get through or over them with out much problem. Not only that but I ski mostly mid week when i can let my skis fly with out people in the way. So don't worry 191's may be a problem for you but not me.Edited by tomfifield - 11/16/14 at 11:24am