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post #61 of 68
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I'm not questioning that.  Only an asshat would try to file workman's comp for an injury that happened while skiing in a sanctioned race not being paid on the clock at the time.  What I am questioning is could they deny paying the healthcare benefits/medical costs of injuries from an accident while free skiing?  Could there be a medical insurance coverage denial for high risk activities?  Can the employer say the employee voids their medical coverage if they choose to ski back country and get injured?

 

The answer to that is not really. First off, the vast majority of ski instructors do not receive health insurance from their mountain. As seasonal employees, they are not required to be covered. So most are covered either by their "real" job, ACA exchange/Medicaid, or by a family member's policy. 

 

Even for those who would receive benefits through their mountain, the employer does not have access to your medical records. The insurance company does, as they are the ones paying the claim. However, due to HIPAA regulations, the insurance company cannot disseminate any personal health information (PHI) without consent, unless there is a clinical or medical billing reason to do so. So the only way for the insurance company to deny a claim would be if the activity were already specified as an exception to coverage. Since the ACA has come into effect, the ability of insurance companies to include and enforce exceptions has been significantly limited. And the writing of policies and exceptions is something that is done by the insurance company, not the employer. 

 

So long story short... could an insurance company conceivably deny a claim due to an activity such as backcountry skiing? Yes. Is it likely? No. And its not something that can be done after the fact. It would have to be in the policy upon inception as an exception to coverage. 

post #62 of 68

This was brought up at our store yesterday, some of local Vail Resort on snow employees were in and I asked them about this and particularly regarding race training and slipping courses. It was their understanding that they could set the bindings at what they preferred but if something was to happen, it was on them. I have as much of a concern with who will be doing the final testing and their experience and ability to do a full function test. 

post #63 of 68
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
 

This was brought up at our store yesterday, some of local Vail Resort on snow employees were in and I asked them about this and particularly regarding race training and slipping courses. It was their understanding that they could set the bindings at what they preferred but if something was to happen, it was on them. I have as much of a concern with who will be doing the final testing and their experience and ability to do a full function test. 

At Stowe, the release testing is done by machine. They clamp everything in, and the hydraulics measure the force to release, and the techs calibrate the DINs to match the recommended release loads.

post #64 of 68
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
 

This was brought up at our store yesterday, some of local Vail Resort on snow employees were in and I asked them about this and particularly regarding race training and slipping courses. It was their understanding that they could set the bindings at what they preferred but if something was to happen, it was on them. I have as much of a concern with who will be doing the final testing and their experience and ability to do a full function test. 

At Stowe, the release testing is done by machine. They clamp everything in, and the hydraulics measure the force to release, and the techs calibrate the DINs to match the recommended release loads.

But dry/wet testing is still needed from time to time. 

post #65 of 68
Simple solution is if you provide the equipment at your cost you get to tell me how it's set, if I'm required to purchase expensive equipment at my cost it is my choice as to how it's set as it in my best interest to ensure its correct.

Good luck to you on this one.
post #66 of 68
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Originally Posted by oldschoolskier View Post

Simple solution is if you provide the equipment at your cost you get to tell me how it's set, if I'm required to purchase expensive equipment at my cost it is my choice as to how it's set as it in my best interest to ensure its correct.



Good luck to you on this one.

 




Don't try to apply "uncommon" sense to issues like this, for there is none...
post #67 of 68
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Originally Posted by Rossi Smash View Post
 
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Originally Posted by oldschoolskier View Post

Simple solution is if you provide the equipment at your cost you get to tell me how it's set, if I'm required to purchase expensive equipment at my cost it is my choice as to how it's set as it in my best interest to ensure its correct.



Good luck to you on this one.

 




Don't try to apply "uncommon" sense to issues like this, for there is none...

:beercheer:

post #68 of 68

Back when I was working in a ski school the director repped one brand of ski and another brand of bindings.  He made sure that everyone that wanted to ride his gear got pro forms for it,  back when pro form was actually a really sweet deal.  That said, I also said put up or shut up.  If the resort wants people skiing gear to their requirements they should be making it extremely easy for the employees to do so by providing said gear mounted set to their specs.  

 

Back when I worked in the ski school we also got free rental gear usage if we wanted it. It was actually kind of cool because they had tele gear and snowboards right when those things started to take off.  Still,  can you imagine showing up for an all day private at Vail only to see the instructor on a pair of rental shop skis?:rotflmao:

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