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Is FIS killing alpine racing?

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 

Yes a little provocative, I need to catch your attention.

 

Here is a copy of an article from an italian sport newspaper

Basically what their are saying is that a few companies (mainly Dainese and Briko) developed technologies that have been proven to increase the safety of the athlete. Dainese one of the top motorcycle protection companies in the world has been developing their airbag technology for skiing application, Briko a new helmet with an extra layer of protection, and so on.
The FIS has shut down these technologies because of bogus claims such as the airbag gives an aerodynamic hump (wind tunnel tests showed no advantage) and the helmet cannot be used because of the "lindsey vonn rule" no attachment to the the helmet (her was a gopro...)

Also there is a cool technology that allows real time timing gate by gate, sensors in bib and poles, which has also been shut down by FIS.
IF we think of all the "safety" reasons for the longer radii and such it really seems like whoever is running FIS doesn't have a clear mind.

post #2 of 13
FIS, FIFA, IOC, NCAA... Pick your level of rot and corruption.
post #3 of 13

That is not really true, at least not entirely. FIS was actually helping develop airbag together with Dainese. And from Val Gardena races (18.12.2014), it will be allowed to use it. Not just allowed but FIS actually recommend to use it. So it's not really they shut it down ;)

I didn't hear anything about Briko helmet though, so no idea about that.

post #4 of 13
Thread Starter 
Interesting! So the article is just ranting? Wouldn't be a surprise...
post #5 of 13

I can't tell as my Italian as good enough to book room in hotel, get something to eat and drink, and then it slowly ends :) It's definitely not good enough to understand this article. But as I wrote, FIS is actually encouraging airbag usage. Well not yet, as it will be legal to use them from Val Gardena races on, but they definitely didn't obstruct this thing. And once again, I haven't heard anything about that Briko helmet, so no idea about that.

post #6 of 13

I thought this would be about how the FIS has made GS into an ugly discipline.

 

jl

post #7 of 13
Skiing wise, it's been pretty fantastic. Oodles of talent.
post #8 of 13

Article reads more or less as discussed above. I can't discuss its merits for professional reasons. 

post #9 of 13

Speed humps don't necessarily help with aerodynamics, but they do help with head drag at speed.  What I find with my track suit (with speed hump) is that it's incredible helpful at stabilizing my head and preventing neck fatigue at speeds over 120mph.  At speeds over 160mph, it's essential.  I'm not quite sure how speed humps would preform at Downhill 70-90mph speeds, but they can't hurt.

 

Regarding the airbags, this is new technology that's saving lives!  We carry the Vircos system for Motorcycles in our shop here in Seattle and it saves lives on the track (I just wish people would pony up the cash more often to pay for it)!

 

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The two most advanced AIR systems are the Dianese and Alpinestars systems.  Alpinestars works off of body telemetry data exclusively while the Dianese system (I believe) is a combo of telemetry data and gps.  I wonder how they're making these work for skiing (our Vircos system activates at time of detachment from the bike, so it really isn't compatible with a ski racing application). 

 

If the FIS is trying to limit the use of these systems (I don't know if they are), it's a shame!  As comp. speeds increase, the motorcycle industry has a lot to lend to comp. ski racing...

post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post

FIS, FIFA, IOC, NCAA... Pick your level of rot and corruption.

you forgot the UN but are on the right track...

post #11 of 13
Thread Starter 

dainese tested the system in the wind tunnel in austria with FIS and there was no advantage so that shouldn't be the reason... apparently it's because it's under contract so only those who can have dainese equipment could use it ==> unfair advantage. :/

post #12 of 13
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Originally Posted by jzamp View Post
 

dainese tested the system in the wind tunnel in austria with FIS and there was no advantage so that shouldn't be the reason... apparently it's because it's under contract so only those who can have dainese equipment could use it ==> unfair advantage. :/


Why would the AIR system create an advantage?  If you crash and activate your AIR system, you will not do well...  I would imagine the speed hump is housing the CPU of the system...that's where it goes in their leather suits...

post #13 of 13
Thread Starter 
Idk, ask FIS apparently they didn't like it :/
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