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post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 

Hi everyone. 

I was hoping I could rack everyone's brains for a bit of advice. I'm looking to purchase a new pair of skis this year. I currently have an older (2011) pair of Volkl Attiva Tierras that I really enjoy but I'm looking for a newer pair.  I will be out in Banff next month, so I was hoping to have a couple that I could demo while I'm out there. There will also be a few demo days at snowshoe i can run up for. 

 

I'm 5'5, 158lbs. I would consider myself an advanced skier but not an expert. Moderately aggressive/moderately fast depending on conditions/company (more so with the snowboarder boys, less so when skiing with the girls)  and I’m a looking for an all mountain ski that is forgiving but responsive. Mostly east coast/midwest/mid atlantic skiing so something that can hold an edge on ice. Overall I want something that is fun that lets me keep up with the boys). 

 

I've been looking at the Volkl Kenjas and Volkl Yumis and the Blizzard Black Pearls online but I am 100% open to options.

 

Thank you!

post #2 of 26

If you are looking for a replacement as an eastern biased AMS, the Blizzard Viva 810 would be the logical step up from your  Tierra, it will give you the hard snow hold you have with the Volkl but will be easier so ski in mixed condition with its bit of rise in the tip & tail. I think the Kenja and Pearl are a bit wide for where you are skiing and the Yuml is a step back. 

 

Paging @Trekchick to the white courtesy phone. 

post #3 of 26
Thread Starter 

Thank you! Ill check them out.

 

Any others that ride like my Tierras? Im a big fan of Volkls but I can be talked into something else. :)

post #4 of 26
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Originally Posted by Jersey Fresh View Post
 

Thank you! Ill check them out.

 

Any others that ride like my Tierras? Im a big fan of Volkls but I can be talked into something else. :)

 

 Since you mentioned skis like the Kenja, Yumi and Black Pearl, I assumed you were broadening your search to more versatile all mountain options. The Volkl Charisma is the successor to your Tierra. If you want more of a linear replacement for the Tierra for other brands, the Blizzard Viva 770, Head SuperJoy and Kastle MX70 are all hard snow biased women's skis.

post #5 of 26
Thread Starter 

Yeah, Im starting to think that im not sure what i want. I guess I need to keep an open mind and try a few different options to know what I really like. I looked up the Blizzards and Ill see if I can find those to demo in Banff. I think I need to try some that ride like my Tierras and some that are a bit more versitile. I end up sking hard snow or ice most of the time, but Id like somethign that is nice when we wake up to fresh powder. I guess thats the curse of east coast/mid atlantic sking.

 

The advice is much appreriated!! Thank you. Im open to any suggestions to check out.

post #6 of 26
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Originally Posted by Jersey Fresh View Post
 

Yeah, Im starting to think that im not sure what i want. I guess I need to keep an open mind and try a few different options to know what I really like. I looked up the Blizzards and Ill see if I can find those to demo in Banff. I think I need to try some that ride like my Tierras and some that are a bit more versitile. I end up sking hard snow or ice most of the time, but Id like somethign that is nice when we wake up to fresh powder. I guess thats the curse of east coast/mid atlantic sking.

 

The advice is much appreriated!! Thank you. Im open to any suggestions to check out.

This is where the Viva810 will do everything the Tierra will do but the Tierra won't do what the Viva810 can do. 

post #7 of 26
Thread Starter 

Awesome. Im going to see if I can find them to demo up there.

 

One last question, are these new for 2015? I was looking on line to see if could find a 2014 on sale but didnt find anything...

post #8 of 26
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Originally Posted by Jersey Fresh View Post
 

Awesome. Im going to see if I can find them to demo up there.

 

One last question, are these new for 2015? I was looking on line to see if could find a 2014 on sale but didnt find anything...

Its a new ski for 2015.

post #9 of 26
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Originally Posted by Jersey Fresh View Post
 

Hi everyone. 

I was hoping I could rack everyone's brains for a bit of advice. I'm looking to purchase a new pair of skis this year. I currently have an older (2011) pair of Volkl Attiva Tierras that I really enjoy but I'm looking for a newer pair.  I will be out in Banff next month, so I was hoping to have a couple that I could demo while I'm out there. There will also be a few demo days at snowshoe i can run up for. 

 

I'm 5'5, 158lbs. I would consider myself an advanced skier but not an expert. Moderately aggressive/moderately fast depending on conditions/company (more so with the snowboarder boys, less so when skiing with the girls)  and I’m a looking for an all mountain ski that is forgiving but responsive. Mostly east coast/midwest/mid atlantic skiing so something that can hold an edge on ice. Overall I want something that is fun that lets me keep up with the boys). 

 

I've been looking at the Volkl Kenjas and Volkl Yumis and the Blizzard Black Pearls online but I am 100% open to options.

 

Thank you!

 

 

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Originally Posted by Jersey Fresh View Post
 

Yeah, Im starting to think that im not sure what i want. I guess I need to keep an open mind and try a few different options to know what I really like. I looked up the Blizzards and Ill see if I can find those to demo in Banff. I think I need to try some that ride like my Tierras and some that are a bit more versitile. I end up sking hard snow or ice most of the time, but Id like somethign that is nice when we wake up to fresh powder. I guess thats the curse of east coast/mid atlantic sking.

 

The advice is much appreriated!! Thank you. Im open to any suggestions to check out.


Phil is on target with the Blizzard Viva 810. Another ski to look at is the Salomon W24.  If you're thinking of something a little more all mountain and you like the feel of the Volkls, then the Kenja is tough to beat.  It will have a bit more of an off piste bias compared to the Viva 810's and W24's. 

A great ski with a similar strength to the Kenja is the Head Great Joy 

post #10 of 26
Thread Starter 

Thank you both. I have a little list to try now.

 

Quick question-is there a 2014 equivalent to the the Viva 810? Just looking to see if there snaything a bit cheaper. the more i read the more I want to try them though..

post #11 of 26

Hmmmm, a previous version of the Viva 810 doesn't really exist, but the Viva 7.7 from last year is a good option and may be found for less $$.  

post #12 of 26
Thread Starter 

Ok ill look into it. Im going to try to demo a couple this weekend up at Banff if Sunshine opens a few trials (its TBD right now :)) Thank you!

post #13 of 26
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
 

 

 Since you mentioned skis like the Kenja, Yumi and Black Pearl, I assumed you were broadening your search to more versatile all mountain options. The Volkl Charisma is the successor to your Tierra. If you want more of a linear replacement for the Tierra for other brands, the Blizzard Viva 770, Head SuperJoy and Kastle MX70 are all hard snow biased women's skis.

 

@Jersey Fresh

Earlier you posted that you were looking at theses skis.  They are all carry over skis that you may find for a little less $$ and be happy with them. 

The Yumi and Black Pearl are going to be a little more playful than the Kenja, with the Kenja being a little closer to hard snow bias. 

 

Just a thought

post #14 of 26
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post
 

 

@Jersey Fresh

Earlier you posted that you were looking at theses skis.  They are all carry over skis that you may find for a little less $$ and be happy with them.

The Yumi and Black Pearl are going to be a little more playful than the Kenja, with the Kenja being a little closer to hard snow bias.

 

Just a thought

 OK cool. Ill try them too. I have my older Attiva Tierras that I really like (they are a bit short but are still really fun) to ski on this year so i can take my time trying a few options. I dont want to end up with a ski I hate or that is too much for me. Just something fun on primarily hard pack and ice since thats going to be about 80% of what we get here but I was hoping to find something that I could drag out west and not hate on a bit of new snow. Ill add them to the list.

 

Maybe ill just have to get two pairs :)

post #15 of 26

@Jersey Fresh : off topic . . . would you have any interest in the Mid-Atlantic Gathering at Blue Knob on Feb. 7-8?  There are a few people coming from DE/NJ.  If so, check out the gathering thread:

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/129818/2015-mid-atlantic-gathering-blue-knob-feb-6-8

 

Also, there is an ongoing regional thread you might find interesting.

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/129720/pa-de-sonj-2014-2015-thread

 

I love my BPs.  Have fun shopping!

post #16 of 26
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by marznc View Post
 

@Jersey Fresh : off topic . . . would you have any interest in the Mid-Atlantic Gathering at Blue Knob on Feb. 7-8?  There are a few people coming from DE/NJ.  If so, check out the gathering thread:

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/129818/2015-mid-atlantic-gathering-blue-knob-feb-6-8

 

Also, there is an ongoing regional thread you might find interesting.

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/129720/pa-de-sonj-2014-2015-thread

 

I love my BPs.  Have fun shopping!

Normally yes (though I am in KY so its a trek but it would be an excuse to get home to NJ) but I will actually be in Australia for work that weekend. But ill check out the thread. And thanks for the invite!

post #17 of 26
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Originally Posted by Jersey Fresh View Post
 
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Originally Posted by marznc View Post
 

@Jersey Fresh : off topic . . . would you have any interest in the Mid-Atlantic Gathering at Blue Knob on Feb. 7-8?  There are a few people coming from DE/NJ.  If so, check out the gathering thread:

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/129818/2015-mid-atlantic-gathering-blue-knob-feb-6-8

 

Also, there is an ongoing regional thread you might find interesting.

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/129720/pa-de-sonj-2014-2015-thread

 

I love my BPs.  Have fun shopping!

Normally yes (though I am in KY so its a trek but it would be an excuse to get home to NJ) but I will actually be in Australia for work that weekend. But ill check out the thread. And thanks for the invite!


Aah . . . that explains the midwest skiing with a Jersey name. :)

post #18 of 26
Thread Starter 
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@Jersey Fresh

Earlier you posted that you were looking at theses skis.  They are all carry over skis that you may find for a little less $$ and be happy with them. 
The Yumi and Black Pearl are going to be a little more playful than the Kenja, with the Kenja being a little closer to hard snow bias. 

Just a thought

Just a thought but do you think it would be worh having two pairs if I cl
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post

@Jersey Fresh

Earlier you posted that you were looking at theses skis.  They are all carry over skis that you may find for a little less $$ and be happy with them. 
The Yumi and Black Pearl are going to be a little more playful than the Kenja, with the Kenja being a little closer to hard snow bias. 

Just a thought
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Just a thought but if I can find reasonable demos to pick up I wouldn't mind getting two pairs. One for hard snow and ice and one for our occational dump or when I finally make it out west. Not sure if there's enough difference in feel between the blizzards and Volkls? Guess I just need to try everything I can get my hands on before I make a decision smile.gif
post #19 of 26

@Jersey Fresh  Ideally I think most skiers who get out a lot can use two pair of skis.(Three if they get a chance to ski powder a fair bit) 

  • Front side carving specific - narrow ski with a nice Turn Radius to optimize the groomers and improve technique
  • All mountain with an off piste bias - mid fat ski with a little more pop and playfulness to venture off piste, blow away crud and play in the moguls. 
post #20 of 26
Thread Starter 
Ok that's kinda what I was thinking. Top pics for both types? I know there were a lot of ones to try thrown out here on this thread so Im sorry in advance smile.gif

I'll demo based on conditions over the next few months.
post #21 of 26
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Ok that's kinda what I was thinking. Top pics for both types? I know there were a lot of ones to try thrown out here on this thread so Im sorry in advance smile.gif

I'll demo based on conditions over the next few months.


If I were creating a two ski quiver and I ski somewhat aggressively, several days a year, my two top picks would be 

 

Skinny: 

  • Head Super Joy
  • Salomon W24
  • Nordica Cinnamon Girl
  • Blizzard Cheyenne(slightly more playful than the others) 

 

Midfat: (98mm ish)

  • Blizzard Samba
  • Head Great Joy
  • K2 Potion 98
  • Nordica Nemesis
  • Salmon Lumen

 

Narrower Midfat (88mm ish)

  • Blizzard Black Pearl 
  • Scott TheSki
  • K2 Potion 90
  • Nordica Wild Belle
  • Salomon Lux
post #22 of 26
Thread Starter 

Ok thanks! So one from the first group and one from the second or third? I can do that :)

 

I really appreciate the help. Im going to research where I can demo.

post #23 of 26
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Ok thanks! So one from the first group and one from the second or third? I can do that :)

 

I really appreciate the help. Im going to research where I can demo.


Have made a note of TC's list.  Be interested to see what you think.  I've got Black Pearls.  Just sold my "skinny" skis so in the market for something else.  Now I need to decide which of the other two categories makes the most sense for the next few years.

post #24 of 26
Thread Starter 
I was able to demo the Kenjas today at Banff. I second guessed myself after reading up on them and hearing how unforgiving /stiff they were. I walked in wanting to swap out for the black pearls but they had the Kenjas out and ready so I took them.

I didn't thinknthey felt any stiffer than my Attivas. I didn't do anything crazy- slow easy runs as it was crowded and Im not in shape. Found they were a ton of fun if i skied correctly and didnt revert to my normal bad habits. I was concerned when I read a review on ski divas that someone felt they had to muscle them- I never got that from them.

I want to try them on ice before I buy. I also want to try the BP and others from TCs list bc I've Only had Volkls since starting back and I want to know what other brands ride like. I did try two pairs of men's heads (rev 98 in 163 and rev 85 in a 170) snd I like theses better. Again could have a different opinion in different conditions or with more time on them (didn't like the 98s- they felt realy wide and hard to turn on the groomers- but they might be fun in fresh snow do Im gonna keep an open mind)

I'll report back when I can try others on TCs list
post #25 of 26
Thread Starter 
Alright I got a chance to demo a bunch of skis over the past month. I demoed:
Volkl Kenjas
Two pairs of head skis I can't remember
Head Great Joy
Blizzard black pearl
Blizzard Cheyenne
Nordica wild belle
Blizzard samba

Rossi was at snowshoe this weekend but had limited demos so didn't really try much more than blizzards

Ok so I rode the Kenjas at banff and really liked them on natural groomed snow. Thought I was going to buy them. But I wanted to try more first.

This weekend we had rain on sat so it was soft spring snow. Then a lot of it froze this morning, so it was made snow on a bit office until it warmed up.

I really liked the great joys on the soft snow yesterday. I was really surprised bc I haven't liked the heads I've been on. Took half a rum to get used to them, but then i didn't want to put my own skis back on.

Today I tried the black pearls which I thought if love but I HATED them. No clue why. Took one run and wanted to take them off. My friends told me to try one more and I did and almost bit it on an easy black. I felt unbalanced and like I couldn't turn without skidded out behind or hold an edge. Felt like a total beginner on them.

. Tried the Nordicas next which were fun but a bit too soft and chattered on the ice which annoyed me.

Next I tried the Cheyennes which I really liked! Easy to turn and held an edge on the ice. Wasn't a super fan of them when we went over to off the lift where the snow was wetter and softer. So in went back and grabbed the sambas thinking Id hate them.

Loved the sambas!! they were super fun on the soft snow- I find my volkls and the Cheyennes hard to turn through that snow which makes me feel not as stable. The sambas were awesome and I felt super, super confident on them!

So I think im going to buy the sambas and look for a narrow frontside ski as well. I'll keep my volkls to ski on groomers and ice until I find something to replace them with. That may be the Cheyennes but i want to try a few more. So any other narrow suggestions would be great. I have TG's list to try too. I'll prob try the Volkl Charismas bc I really do like my current skis on groomed and ice. Thanks!
post #26 of 26
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Originally Posted by Jersey Fresh View Post

Alright I got a chance to demo a bunch of skis over the past month. I demoed:
Volkl Kenjas
Two pairs of head skis I can't remember
Head Great Joy
Blizzard black pearl
Blizzard Cheyenne
Nordica wild belle
Blizzard samba

Rossi was at snowshoe this weekend but had limited demos so didn't really try much more than blizzards

Ok so I rode the Kenjas at banff and really liked them on natural groomed snow. Thought I was going to buy them. But I wanted to try more first.

This weekend we had rain on sat so it was soft spring snow. Then a lot of it froze this morning, so it was made snow on a bit office until it warmed up.

I really liked the great joys on the soft snow yesterday. I was really surprised bc I haven't liked the heads I've been on. Took half a rum to get used to them, but then i didn't want to put my own skis back on.

Today I tried the black pearls which I thought if love but I HATED them. No clue why. Took one run and wanted to take them off. My friends told me to try one more and I did and almost bit it on an easy black. I felt unbalanced and like I couldn't turn without skidded out behind or hold an edge. Felt like a total beginner on them.

. Tried the Nordicas next which were fun but a bit too soft and chattered on the ice which annoyed me.

Next I tried the Cheyennes which I really liked! Easy to turn and held an edge on the ice. Wasn't a super fan of them when we went over to off the lift where the snow was wetter and softer. So in went back and grabbed the sambas thinking Id hate them.

Loved the sambas!! they were super fun on the soft snow- I find my volkls and the Cheyennes hard to turn through that snow which makes me feel not as stable. The sambas were awesome and I felt super, super confident on them!

So I think im going to buy the sambas and look for a narrow frontside ski as well. I'll keep my volkls to ski on groomers and ice until I find something to replace them with. That may be the Cheyennes but i want to try a few more. So any other narrow suggestions would be great. I have TG's list to try too. I'll prob try the Volkl Charismas bc I really do like my current skis on groomed and ice. Thanks!


Welcome to the "I never thought I could handle a ski like the Samba but love them" club! I LOVE mine and how confident I am with speed on them. Super stable, smooth, yet they really pop, too. Isn't demoing fun and rewarding and interesting? Glad you found a ski you love!!

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