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post #121 of 128
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I don't worry about 3.1 or 2,8 etc.  I just want it consistent.  I say that here.  The video should start where I say that.  Trivial.

 

Did not work.  Go to 5:39.

 

 


I was just using user names for the sake of the example, not saying that's what you actually want, or anyone else for that matter.


No problem.  Your post was just fine as far as I am concerned.  I don't mind you dropping names.  After all, we are all here.   :beercheer:

 

As far as my personal skis I am finding I prefer a 4 degree side.  Then again maybe it is a 3.7 or a 4.2.  ;)

post #122 of 128
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 Here is a super macro close up of a hanging burr from tuning.


Thanks for posting this. This makes sense - but is hardly the microscopic phenomenon that some have discussed. And it seems to me (correct me if I am wrong) that for the purposes of most of us, a couple swipes of a stone  cleans that up. So the bottom line would be that finishing a "reasonable enough" tune and getting the burr off is not exactly demanding. And does not involve anything truly microscopic.

post #123 of 128

Spindrift, that's how I've always interpreted Atomicman's teaching.  Just run a stone along the base edge lightly with no pressure.  Easy.  As to the microscopic wording, I too wonder if a microscopic burr would effect skiing - but than again, you can look at a huge object with a microscope if you want, right? :)

post #124 of 128
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 Here is a super macro close up of a hanging burr from tuning.


Thanks for posting this. This makes sense - but is hardly the microscopic phenomenon that some have discussed. And it seems to me (correct me if I am wrong) that for the purposes of most of us, a couple swipes of a stone  cleans that up. So the bottom line would be that finishing a "reasonable enough" tune and getting the burr off is not exactly demanding. And does not involve anything truly microscopic.


You are welcome Spindrift.  Yes, you are totally right.  It can be as microscopic as one cares it to be though,  The closer you look, the rougher things become.  We just want a ski that handles well and will not hinder our progression.  Be good!

 

Edit:  I should have said this is an unfinished tune, then did another photo, but you got the picture!  :beercheer:

post #125 of 128

And to think that the OP just wanted to know a short list of initial factory tunes! :yahoo:

 

Stupendous! I love it, thanks.  Really awesome, dudes.

 

Thanks again for your teaching videos, Jacques

 

Am I really gonna have to get a 4* side edge bevel tool now, just to see? Sure looks like it.  :)

 

To put things in perspective, for me, I've been enjoying my sharp, no burr(?) 1/3 edges 10 times so far this season, last one at Copper Mt., opening day.  On Atomics every day, Atomicman. Once on my Rituals.

Friday was skiing beside all those national team racers speaking many languages but doing the same great sport.  Can't be beat.  

post #126 of 128
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And to think that the OP just wanted to know a short list of initial factory tunes! :yahoo:

 

Stupendous! I love it, thanks.  Really awesome, dudes.

 

Thanks again for your teaching videos, Jacques

 

Am I really gonna have to get a 4* side edge bevel tool now, just to see? Sure looks like it.  :)

 

To put things in perspective, for me, I've been enjoying my sharp, no burr(?) 1/3 edges 10 times so far this season, last one at Copper Mt., opening day.  On Atomics every day, Atomicman. Once on my Rituals.

Friday was skiing beside all those national team racers speaking many languages but doing the same great sport.  Can't be beat.  


  Nice.  Lay down a 4.  You will like that bit more grip.  If it's a sandwich do the full sidewall treatment as well as that can be huge.

post #127 of 128
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And to think that the OP just wanted to know a short list of initial factory tunes! :yahoo:

 

Stupendous! I love it, thanks.  Really awesome, dudes.

 

Thanks again for your teaching videos, Jacques

 

Am I really gonna have to get a 4* side edge bevel tool now, just to see? Sure looks like it.  :)

 

To put things in perspective, for me, I've been enjoying my sharp, no burr(?) 1/3 edges 10 times so far this season, last one at Copper Mt., opening day.  On Atomics every day, Atomicman. Once on my Rituals.

Friday was skiing beside all those national team racers speaking many languages but doing the same great sport.  Can't be beat.  

Thumbs Up:D 

post #128 of 128
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Yes, well everyone's experiences differ! Thumbs Up  

 

So there suys skied with a burr............What about you, yourself Chenzo?

 

Although I have heard about some racers wanting some hanging burr (I believe mostly underfoot) I can't understand it. Predictability and the ability to progressively add edge to me trumps pure edge grip,  although with a 4 degree on a Gs ski and a 4 or more with an SL i don't know why you would need a hanging burr to get an edge?

 

Were these Masters guys lacking somehow in technique or winning?

 

 

No burr for me, ever.  I hardly ever get requested to leave it on a tune these days.

 

A legit 4 degree is difficult for most, to put on by hand, I used to have lots of 4 and 5 degree tunes.  Now, its all about snowglide/trione hang burr.  uuugh!

 

I think they were lacking in both technique and winning.  hahah  they liked the grip I guess.

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