Originally Posted by Atomicman
No he used marker RAce bindings screwed into the Atomic D2 plate. There a numerous photos that show he is NOT using a Marker plate and his GS ski are clearly 3rd Generation D2's
This should pretty much end the discussion on the plate. Clear as day D2's You can't mount a marker plate on top of the D2 plate and keep within legal FIS standheight regulations!
NO MARKER PLATE! DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ!
We will disagree here A' man. Having looked at the reall deal World Cup skis the D2 plate is NOT one piece continuous any more . Actually 3 parts, the front deck, the rear deck and a center plate. IIRC the center plate is NOT connected to the front and rear sections. Thus it would be very straightforward to swap out the center section for a piston plate without going over the stand height. I obviously am guessing at this as much as anyone but my understanding was that he wanted the marker plate because it was going to give a smoother ride and he expected it was going to be pretty rough on the second run. This makes some sense as the new atomic center section plate is a pretty solid ally construction, very similar to some of those we have seen used by Ted and others on the head WC skis.
You are correct in that it would be possible to just mount the markers directly on a standard D2 plate. If they didn't come predrilled from the factory we could all have a free choice of bindings - I have mounted sollies and the older 1018 on them in the past - but I struggle to see any rationale for that. The damping of the marker 20/30 is not noticeably different to the atomic X series binding. The issue referred to earlier when the athletes wanted to use the older 1018 binding was on speed skis,not tech skis. The WC athletes found issues with vibration at very high speeds with the x series. That is one of the reasons atomic took an extra year to make the binding switch on the speed skis. However that issue has now been resolved for a couple of years at least from the feedback I have heard.
Incidentally, going back to the current generation atomic WC (the real deal ones)GS skis, the reason for switching to the new plate ( 3 piece) was that it greatly improved the turn in and initiation. The feedback from travis was that it made the ski significantly better and faster and resolved the issues that we saw in the first couple of years of the new radii where athletes were having real issues getting them to turn in and were making step turns almost . I have only seen this plate so far on the genuine WC skis, the race stock available to the rest of us still have the Standrad one piece D 2