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Hey guys and gals, Im new to the forum here, been reading for the last 3 weeks. I have been out of the ski sport for a the last 4 years or so. Seems like a lot has changed. I did manage to get one day in abasin summer 2013. That was neat skiing June 1st, it even snowed in the morning.

 

So Im back in the north east again, im 6' and 205-210 and I am 26. I would say a advanced skier. I like to ski fast and carve. I skied P50s a few years ago and public enemy's. I will be skiing Blue Mtn and my family has a place near Whiteface up in NY. I will be getting out to UT and CO this winter or where ever the snow is. I work in the transportation industry and I am able to travel on my days off. I have skied out west 5 times or so and been to Davos and St. Moritz before. I am building my fleet of skis up, I already did grab 2 pairs for this winter. Just wanted to see what you guys could suggest or offer here.

 

I want something that will be good for the east coast nice and variable conditions we have here often, but I want a pair that will work out west in the POW if I can find it this year. I have only skied 2 days of east coast pow ever so really looking forward to getting out west. I don't mind having 3 pairs of skis as long as I can afford it.

 

I already did some shoping, my local shop in Delaware had their fall sale. I picked up a pair of brand new 2014 180cm Blizzard Brahmas and marker griffons for a great deal. Im thinking these will suit my needs for ice and speed here in the east or the west.

 

At the used sale I grabbed a pair of Surface Green Life 182cm which I don't know much about the price was right the skis were never skied on, the bindings were used Jesters. This was a impulse buy didn't know much about them, but the price was right and I went with them after a few techs said it was a good deal. I think they are the 2013 model but I cant find much about them online.

 

I think I will be more than happy with the brahmas but will I be happy with the Green Life? Looking to drag one ski to west with me this winter should it be those or should it be something else? I had my eyes on the Soul 7 in 180 or 188cm or Super 7 but they are a little salty. Should I sell the Surface skis and move up to something like that? I just want something that will allow me to ski pow out west and aid me in learning how to ski pow, if I can find it this year.

 

After having twin tips like the PEs I might want a park ski but I am be running out of cash before I can get a pair lol. I am not much one for rails, I like jumps but I feel like a noob in the park. So not sure how much I should be in there.

 

Thanks for all the help! I am really looking forward to ski season!

 

-Jon

 

post #2 of 14

I don't know anything about the Green Life other than the dimensions, but I would suggest you ski them first before buying another pair. Ski it around Blue on a few days with good snow. If you can enjoy it on east coast groomers, then it's probably a decent enough ski to take on a western trip. At 100 underfoot with (apparently) tip and tail rocker, it should serve you fine for resort powder if you're lucky enough to get it. Remember that even on a powder day, if you don't really know your way around UT or CO resorts you're only going to get a few runs of true powder. It'll be chopped up quick. A 100mm ski, if it's a good ski, should serve you well on a western trip.

 

I use the Soul 7 for trips and I like it. It's a good enough powder ski, handles light snow (UT/CO) crud pretty well, and is a pretty darn fun ski to carve on. It's a very good, safe choice for anyone looking for that 1 ski quiver for trips out west. (It's less good in the PNW with the heavy, wet snow. That's it's weakness, IMO.) There are a lot of great skis in the one-oh-something category. Unless you're going to book last minute trips when the forecast is for powder, that's probably your sweet spot.

post #3 of 14

Surface makes a pretty good ski. I know some people who have skied their Watch Life, and a number of patrollers that use their Save Life model. I figure if Surface can make a ski that stands up to the abuse that most patrollers give them, it's a pretty decent ski. If you ski the Surface and like how it works, it should be just fine for most of your Western pow slaying purposes. 

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I guess I will wait to ski the surfaces out east and see how I like them, they don't seem to have any tip rocker or tail rocker?  The Soul 7 are on  my want list, maybe next year. For a twin tip I found a pair of K2 Sight for 200 bucks in my size. They are 2 years old but new, What do you think of those. They seem like they could be a good all mountain park beater ski? I would need to find bindings.

post #5 of 14

You're right... sorry about that. They do appear to be a full camber ski. Still, you've already made the investment... might as well use them.

post #6 of 14
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How do you think that translates, All this rocker and camber is all new to me. Camber in general= better carving and rocker= better float. I am just generalizing. I could make them a ebay special... just a idea.

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Since you mention PA & DE  I'm assuming Exton PA isn't that far for you.... you may want to check out Wicks round 2 of their consignment tent  sale end of Nov  .  I was at round 1 of the sale last week and they always have tons of skiis ( used & leftover models) . I've never actually gone to their round 2 sale so can't comment on what'll be left.....but i'm sure it'll be fun to at least browse to see if something tempts you for cheap.

 

Nice store and people .   

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Since you mention PA & DE  I'm assuming Exton PA isn't that far for you.... you may want to check out Wicks round 2 of their consignment tent  sale end of Nov  .  I was at round 1 of the sale last week and they always have tons of skiis ( used & leftover models) . I've never actually gone to their round 2 sale so can't comment on what'll be left.....but i'm sure it'll be fun to at least browse to see if something tempts you for cheap.

 

Nice store and people .   

If they are having a round two..hit it for sure. If you are skiing Blue primarily, Wicks shouldn't be more than an hour away. Tell Mark I said Hi. 

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Originally Posted by PA Ski Dad View Post
 

Since you mention PA & DE  I'm assuming Exton PA isn't that far for you.... you may want to check out Wicks round 2 of their consignment tent  sale end of Nov  .  I was at round 1 of the sale last week and they always have tons of skiis ( used & leftover models) . I've never actually gone to their round 2 sale so can't comment on what'll be left.....but i'm sure it'll be fun to at least browse to see if something tempts you for cheap.

 

Nice store and people .   

If they are having a round two..hit it for sure. If you are skiing Blue primarily, Wicks shouldn't be more than an hour away. Tell Mark I said Hi. 

Maybe @SKI-3PO could meet you there. 

post #10 of 14
Unfortunately I won't be there as I'll be out of town. But I may be dropping some stuff off for the sale beforehand. I was at the one a few weeks ago - they had a huge turnout. I suggest getting there VERY early (9:30ish) as the best stuff goes quickly and the lines get long.
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I don't know anything about the Green Life other than the dimensions, but I would suggest you ski them first before buying another pair. Ski it around Blue on a few days with good snow. If you can enjoy it on east coast groomers, then it's probably a decent enough ski to take on a western trip.

 

I'm the Blue Mtn Ambassador and I got a great laugh at the thought of finding "good" snow at Blue to test a 100mm waist ski. Not likely to happen unless it warms up a lot on the day you are are there. I limit use of my 100 mm skies to soft snow days such as spring conditions at Blue.

 

Waveblaster's choice of Bahama's should work pretty well for typical Blue conditions. When you go west, just look at the weather forecast and make the best decision just before you leave. 

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I'm the Blue Mtn Ambassador and I got a great laugh at the thought of finding "good" snow at Blue to test a 100mm waist ski. Not likely to happen unless it warms up a lot on the day you are are there. I limit use of my 100 mm skies to soft snow days such as spring conditions at Blue.

Waveblaster's choice of Bahama's should work pretty well for typical Blue conditions. When you go west, just look at the weather forecast and make the best decision just before you leave. 

You missed my point. I wasn't suggesting he ski it at Blue because it's an appropriate ski for that mountain. I was suggesting he take some runs with it there to see how it handles hard snow. If you're only taking 1 ski on a trip out west, it needs to at least be serviceable on groomers for when there's not much powder, which can be often.
post #13 of 14
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Originally Posted by kauffee View Post


You missed my point. I wasn't suggesting he ski it at Blue because it's an appropriate ski for that mountain. I was suggesting he take some runs with it there to see how it handles hard snow. If you're only taking 1 ski on a trip out west, it needs to at least be serviceable on groomers for when there's not much powder, which can be often.

Ahhh, but, in your original post, you used the word "good" snow, not "firm" snow. At Blue, we are sometimes lucky to find firm snow. I'm unsure of what can be learned at Blue to prepare for off-piste conditions found in the west. Sure, hard snow technique is a great plus, but, it's a whole new experience to become proficient in western steeps, bumps and crud.

 

So,  the best advice I can give to Waveblaster200 is to purchase a double ski bag and take two pair of skis on western trips. We read too many posts where someone is seeking a one ski quiver, truth is that ski is mediocre on many days in the west. Second best advice is to stop buying skis and asking questions second. You did get a little lucky with the Brahma's, but, at 88 waist, that's as wide as I'd recommend for Pa skiing. For 2 years, I took an 88 waist ski as my only, on western trips, there was only one day when I wished I had wider. Last year I took a 100 waist ski to Utah and conditions were spectacular for that width. You pay your money, and, take your chances on snow conditions.

post #14 of 14
Thread Starter 

Living Proof

 

I didn't just run out and buy the Brahma's I did my research, I know what they can do. So I don't think there was any luck involved. A 2 ski bag is on my hit list in the next few weeks. I will be checking out the Wicks sale but sadly Ill be out on a trip till late Saturday, So maybe I can see what is left over Sunday.  I'm not completely new to the west skiing but I am new to skiing pow. Just trying to see what the best options were, can't learn if you don't ask questions. Thanks for the input.

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