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Time for a ski vise

post #1 of 39
Thread Starter 

Ok.  It's time to replace my ski vice; it's getting old.

 

I did a search and got a bunch of dead links.

I'm also in Canada, so I want to avoid over-border shipping problems.

 

I notice MEC sells a few cheap (100-145 Canadian dollars) ski vices (Kuu Winterstieger and skiman).

 

I need recommendations on what vice to get.  Doesn't need to be one of the above, but also which of the above is best (guessing it's the $145 dollar one)?  I don't board.

Thanks.

post #2 of 39
This one. I've got the version that came before the wider opening this one has and it's perfect.

There are also twins to this sold under other labels.
http://www.skiman.it/vises/art-1110w.aspx
post #3 of 39

Several years ago I went to a Snowboard shop and bought a friction type of vise, which is not really a vise but does have a slot that holds a ski of any width on its side so you can sharpen a side edge. The side edge is the edge that mostly gets sharpened, not the base edge.

 

If you look at most ski shops' tuning room you will find friction type "vises".

post #4 of 39
But it's the base of the skis I wax. So the vise serves as the platform for waxing and scraping.

I have no idea what this type of vice is you're talking about, DanoT. Pic?
post #5 of 39
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

But it's the base of the skis I wax. So the vise serves as the platform for waxing and scraping.

I have no idea what this type of vice is you're talking about, DanoT. Pic?

 

Sorry, I do not have pics and I won't be at the mountain with my ski gear for another 2 weeks so I can't take any pics.

 

What I use are 2 "T" shaped brackets that clamp to a table and offer a sticky rubber surface on the top of the T for friction grip. There is a gap on top of the T where you can wedge a ski in sideways to grip the ski for working on the side edge. So there is no vise grip at all.

 

Mine are made of Zytel, a type of plastic that is as strong as steel but very light weight. Great for traveling.

post #6 of 39
So, basically the normal vise without a center grip, and not using the clamps when it's on edge in the slots? And not having the center grip for when you scrape? Sounds great for travel, I guess, because of the weight. But you are traveling in a truck, not racing through an airport concourse. Is there no tightening to keep the ski steady when you do edge work? Clearly I'm missing something.
post #7 of 39

check out tognar tool works. I've had the profi vise for a few years and highly recommend it.

post #8 of 39

This is what I am talking about:

 

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post #9 of 39

I have two pairs of Swix World Cup 50mm vises. Never let me down, but closer to $200 CDN. I bought one set a long time ago at Artech, but special ordered the second from a local store.

post #10 of 39
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Originally Posted by DanoT View Post

This is what I am talking about:

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So there's a clamp, but it's a spring instead of a screw.
post #11 of 39
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post


So there's a clamp, but it's a spring instead of a screw.

 

Mine doesn't have a spring, just a v-shaped slot for holding ski sideways and of course it is all friction and no clamp for holding the ski flat for binding work, mounting etc and base up for tuning.

post #12 of 39
I got this from Terry at Slidewright
http://www.slidewright.com/tools4boards-cinch-ski--snowboard-vise.php

CAD pricing included as well as USD so hopefully shipping is not too bad,

Paging @Alpinord
post #13 of 39
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post


So there's a clamp, but it's a spring instead of a screw.


I have the same "style" but homemade out of two thickness of laminated plywood,

and the soft rubber grips on the tops.  Holds plenty well enough 

for edge and very good grip for scraping due the grippy tops:  

 

The grippy stuff is like this:  

 http://www.rockler.com/non-slip-router-mat

post #14 of 39

It's tough to get a good price on a new good ski vice in Ontario, Canada. By good vice I mean the world cup versions of Swix, Toko. Holmenkol, Wintersteiger and Ski Man - the models with spring loaded adjustable end clamps. All made in the same place, with minor tweaks between the models, for example -  center clamp jaw width, and mold designs on the end clamps.

 

The best deals I have found on used clamps have been from kijiji and ebay, but you have to search regularly to find them.  I hear the american amazon blows out these w/c clamps once in a while.

 

Here's some of my vises, and what I think of em.  

 

Toko w/c ski vise - almost same as the other brands noted above.  Best vise for waxing/tuning.  Adjusts easily/quickly for all lengths of skis.

 

 

Shittiest expensive model made by the same factory in Italy.  Don't waste your money on these, unless you are tuning once a year.

 

 

This is a $600 plus double vice distributed by wintersteiger and montana.  Useless for tuning, but the best for adjusting/mounting binding.

 

 

Burton RED snowboard vise, with a center clamp thingy from tools for boards,that I use regularly in a shop environment. Not bad vise that is adaptable to skis.  Easy to build one out of wood and some hardware.

 

 

Swix Pro Vise 500 - not in production anymore I think.  Another one you could build yourself.  (There is a post of a diy version of this somewhere in this forum)

 

 

post #15 of 39
I made a version of this
http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-Ski-Vice/
Works well
post #16 of 39

I like this one.

 

Snowboard?

post #17 of 39

Got this one last year:

http://store.eggbarvise.com/product_p/code-006.htm

 

Very happy with it so far.  Not having to clamp the skis down repeatedly saves time.  A little pricey, but it's burly (all metal, few moving parts) and I shouldn't have to buy another vise for a long time (if ever).  One downside, to me, is it's not really portable, unless you attach it to a table/bench with collapsible legs, which I work around by tuning ahead of time and and bringing only the tools I need to get by on trips.  I think they're pretty flexible on shipping options, it's a small company.

post #18 of 39

I like that Eggbar, but it's spendy and I have no place to set it up.  This is working for me now:

Works fine for doing the edges, base repair and waxing.  Not so good if the skis need to be flattened, but I'll get a stone grind when I need that.  

I don't really do race tunes, but this works fine for off piste skis. YMMV.

 

BK

post #19 of 39

Here's my set-up, which is really functional and relatively cheap.  It uses two drill-press vices (< $20/vice), and two pieces of a 4x4 covered in some rug no-slip material (also under the vices).  

 

post #20 of 39

Sorry if I am using a dated thread, but I am trying to land on the best vise solution.  I did some bouncing around and finally decided on this thread.  

 

I bought the KUU vises a couple of years ago (imaged below), but really need a middle vise of some kind for greater stability.  Frankly I am not sure if I want to sell the KUU vises and buy something three times more expensive (unless someone happens to be selling a used vise that fits 105 mm skis - preferably near Ottawa).  I am hoping to get some input on which of the following options might work best.

 

I will be regularly tuning my wife's skis as well as those of both my kids (5 & 7) so I am hoping to find something that can be adapted for skis of varying length / width.

 

Option #1 - making four "binding molds" like the one pictured below and using two vises to clamp them on the workbench when doing the respective ski: 

 

Image result for ski binding vise 

Option #2 - A combination of the following two pictures.  One problem is that, due to the size of my kid's skis the length of the 4x4 blocks would need to be much smaller.  

 

LL

 

Image result for ski binding vise

 

In both cases I am thinking I would also use my KUU vices at either end for additional stability.   I am probably way overdoing it, but I don't want the ski to be moving too much when I am waxing or sharpening the base edge.  Looking forward to everyone's thoughts.

Full disclosure - I am not great at the whole carpentry thing.

post #21 of 39
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Originally Posted by Jacques View Post
 

I like this one.

 

Snowboard?

 

Just bite the bullet and get a actual vice that works.  The above is online for like $99.00   Oh shoot...it's up $10.00 from the past.   http://www.beasttuning.com/Jaws-of-the-BEAST-Ski-Tuning-Vise-p/3020.htm

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Originally Posted by Grizzly Bear View Post
 

Sorry if I am using a dated thread, but I am trying to land on the best vise solution.  I did some bouncing around and finally decided on this thread.  

 

I bought the KUU vises a couple of years ago (imaged below), but really need a middle vise of some kind for greater stability.  Frankly I am not sure if I want to sell the KUU vises and buy something three times more expensive (unless someone happens to be selling a used vise that fits 105 mm skis - preferably near Ottawa).  I am hoping to get some input on which of the following options might work best.

 

I will be regularly tuning my wife's skis as well as those of both my kids (5 & 7) so I am hoping to find something that can be adapted for skis of varying length / width.

 

Option #1 - making four "binding molds" like the one pictured below and using two vises to clamp them on the workbench when doing the respective ski: 

 

Image result for ski binding vise 

Option #2 - A combination of the following two pictures.  One problem is that, due to the size of my kid's skis the length of the 4x4 blocks would need to be much smaller.  

 

LL

 

Image result for ski binding vise

 

In both cases I am thinking I would also use my KUU vices at either end for additional stability.   I am probably way overdoing it, but I don't want the ski to be moving too much when I am waxing or sharpening the base edge.  Looking forward to everyone's thoughts.

Full disclosure - I am not great at the whole carpentry thing.

post #22 of 39
Thread Starter 

I ended up with the Ski Man ski vise comp.  Got it at MEC.

 

Ski Man 3Piece Standard Vise-2G4

 

Googled the image from http://www.hwk-skiwax.us/Waxing-Tuning-Tools/Ski-Man-3Piece-Standard-Vise-2G4.html

It works so much better than my old vise (pictured in first post).

Quite happy with it.  No problems to report.

post #23 of 39
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Originally Posted by Chenzo View Post
 

It's tough to get a good price on a new good ski vice in Ontario, Canada. By good vice I mean the world cup versions of Swix, Toko. Holmenkol, Wintersteiger and Ski Man - the models with spring loaded adjustable end clamps. All made in the same place, with minor tweaks between the models, for example -  center clamp jaw width, and mold designs on the end clamps.

 

Burton RED snowboard vise, with a center clamp thingy from tools for boards,that I use regularly in a shop environment. Not bad vise that is adaptable to skis.  Easy to build one out of wood and some hardware.

 

I have this one - pretty happy with it. I have some mods to not let the skis sink low in the slot.

It's very fast to use: flip the skis, no screwing around... when you do many pairs, not bad.

Got some drawbacks - sometimes the skis move in it... if you press down hard when brushing, it flaps about etc. but all in all I got used to it

 

I was looking at the kuu president to replace it maybe.

post #24 of 39

Hmmm, thanks for the responses.  I am hoping to find a good deal thanks to either Black Friday or Cyber Monday.  

 

Problem with the Beast and the Ski Man Vises is that they are not wide enough - I need 100 mm for my skis and would prefer that it open as wide as 105 (in case my quiver expands).  I see in the video clip for the Beast that you can clamp on the binding - frankly that just seems wrong to me, although I have no basis for saying as much.  

 

For deals I am thinking of checking racewax, tognar and slidewright - any other suggestions?

post #25 of 39
Thread Starter 

Wow! You've got some pretty thick skis there!   You do realize they fit in the vise vertically, one edge down, one edge up?

post #26 of 39
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Originally Posted by Grizzly Bear View Post

Hmmm, thanks for the responses.  I am hoping to find a good deal thanks to either Black Friday or Cyber Monday.  

Problem with the Beast and the Ski Man Vises is that they are not wide enough - I need 100 mm for my skis and would prefer that it open as wide as 105 (in case my quiver expands).  I see in the video clip for the Beast that you can clamp on the binding - frankly that just seems wrong to me, although I have no basis for saying as much.  

For deals I am thinking of checking racewax, tognar and slidewright - any other suggestions?
I got the beast and use it on 116mm skis
No issues whatsoever just clamp the bindings on the toe or heel

Plus edge tuning is a breeze with that vice
post #27 of 39
I clamp my 98's by having the vise grab the binding, but some bindings that won't work. There is a wider version, though:
http://www.skiman.it/vises/art-1110wn.aspx
http://www.race-werks.com/ski-man-wide-pro-vise/
post #28 of 39

I love these, I find the angle is very comfortable. I have Toko's one's like these that I bought back in 2000' they have been great all these years.

 

http://www.artechski.com/fk-sks-profi-ski-vise-with-vertical-edge-clamp/?gclid=CLaW64j9m9ACFY9XDQodbGoEjA

post #29 of 39
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Originally Posted by Grizzly Bear View Post
 

Hmmm, thanks for the responses.  I am hoping to find a good deal thanks to either Black Friday or Cyber Monday.  

 

Problem with the Beast and the Ski Man Vises is that they are not wide enough - I need 100 mm for my skis and would prefer that it open as wide as 105 (in case my quiver expands).  I see in the video clip for the Beast that you can clamp on the binding - frankly that just seems wrong to me, although I have no basis for saying as much.  

 

For deals I am thinking of checking racewax, tognar and slidewright - any other suggestions?


If your worried about vicing a binding don't.  Just don't tighten it too much.  I have clamped just about every type made and no problems.

post #30 of 39

Lots of alternatives posted here, and I'm all for DIY or low-cost but my opinion is get a set of Swix/Toko WC ones and you'll have them life and they really aren't all that expensive if you use them regularly for multiple skis over multiple years.

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