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What info do you wish that all ski manufacturers would include in their product descriptions?

post #1 of 19
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As everyone who's read any of my posts knows, despite being female I am not lightweight, so here's what I want:

 

For each length of each model of ski, the manufacturer should post on their website the recommended height and weight ranges. Sort of like what's printed on pantyhose boxes. I feel confident that the manufacturer has already answered this question for themselves when they make the ski; all they have to do is actually publish it.

 

What's your wish?

post #2 of 19

Turn radius for each length.  Weight of ski for each length.

post #3 of 19
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Originally Posted by bounceswoosh View Post

As everyone who's read any of my posts knows, despite being female I am not lightweight, so here's what I want:

For each length of each model of ski, the manufacturer should post on their website the recommended height and weight ranges. Sort of like what's printed on pantyhose boxes. I feel confident that the manufacturer has already answered this question for themselves when they make the ski; all they have to do is actually publish it.

What's your wish?

Atomic already does this on their Nordic skis.
post #4 of 19
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Originally Posted by bounceswoosh View Post

As everyone who's read any of my posts knows, despite being female I am not lightweight, so here's what I want:

For each length of each model of ski, the manufacturer should post on their website the recommended height and weight ranges. Sort of like what's printed on pantyhose boxes. I feel confident that the manufacturer has already answered this question for themselves when they make the ski; all they have to do is actually publish it.

What's your wish?

Atomic already does this on their Nordic skis.

 

LOL. "He has a low tolerance for ambiguity." - I meant alpine skis.

post #5 of 19
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LOL. "He has a low tolerance for ambiguity." - I meant alpine skis.

 

I knew what you meant. My point was that they could do it for alpine skis too if they wanted. Not a foreign concept. (The other xc ski companies do the same thing, just not in a way that is transparent and easy to for consumers understand without a code book.)

post #6 of 19

An accurate representation of the camber/rocker profile.

post #7 of 19

The more technical information provided, the more confused the non-thinking public will become.

Ignorance is bliss makes good marketing.

 

I'd like them to tell us everything, in columns for comparison.  The recommended weight of the skier should be on that column.

post #8 of 19
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I'd like them to tell us everything, in columns for comparison.

 

Dream big! That would be amazing.

post #9 of 19

Everything.

Starting with turn radius for each model, stiffness fore and aft and torsional (perhaps a graph of stress-strain, complete profile from the top and from the side.

 

As to recommended weight, well it would have to be a graph with speed along one axis and weight on another.  Different areas for different heights.  Three-d anyone - height on the third showing a volume?

post #10 of 19
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Everything.
Starting with turn radius for each model, stiffness fore and aft and torsional (perhaps a graph of stress-strain, complete profile from the top and from the side.

As to recommended weight, well it would have to be a graph with speed along one axis and weight on another.  Different areas for different heights.  Three-d anyone - height on the third showing a volume?

And body fat percentage to figure in how much of the weight is muscle!
post #11 of 19

Ski weight.  Use columns for info. Done.

 

 

Gotta say I love Kastle's website with their ski cross-sections which show exact construction (including thickness of metal).  LOVE that.

 

post #12 of 19

A universal torsional, and tip to tail stiffness scale and rating would be helpful. Maybe some universal pop, and playfulness rating too.

I'd still want to demo though.

post #13 of 19

To state if bases are sintered or extruded.  This is left out too often.  Some makers won't even tell you if you email them.  What does that tell you? 
 

Complete base make-up is needed.  There are many qualities of sintered bases and they are not all equal.

post #14 of 19

I would want to know if any unicorns were injured while developing the skis...

 

I would also like to know what the lead engineer's hopes and dreams are.

post #15 of 19
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I would also like to know what the lead engineer's hopes and dreams are.

Monthly installment on student loans could prove enlightening as well, oh wait, never mind. I usually reserve that question for the sales clerk.:D

post #16 of 19

In addition to ski weight and turn radius, info on factory bevels would be nice too.

post #17 of 19

For each length:

- Dimensions (3 or 5 points, depending on make)

- Turn radius

- Rocker length/splay

- Weight

- Running length/effective edge

- Camber

- Flex index (though not before there is an accepted industry flex index standard)

 

Photos of camber profile.

 

PS: Line and Praxis are excellent examples of how ski specs should be presented.

post #18 of 19
Ski stiffness as identified by a normed unit of measurement, as agreed by producesse and, say, ISO. Same thing for ski length (as you knowledege, producers do not use the same definition even for this unit...)
And I shall go slightly off topic and....boots stiffness should Also be normed by a set of Common uom
post #19 of 19

Bindings--elastic travel and BSL adjustment range. Oh, and a link to the shop manual (like that'll ever happen).

A lot of the ski specs that aren't on the manufacturers web site can be found on on line store and review sites.Better info on stiffness would be nice. Obviously a manufacturer would only compare relative stiffness within their own line. Reviewers can compare across makes. I really liked Philpug's 98mm ski review 2 (?) years ago where he ranked the different make/models by stiffness. Probably the most important variable and the hardest to find out.

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