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post #31 of 57
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well, that makes sense, especially if there's moisture between liner and shell.


or if you have sweaty feet

 

The outside of my liners doesn't transport water.  It's a pleather and closed cell foam thing.     About the only way for sweat to get out there is through the seam stitching and even I don't schwitz that much.

post #32 of 57

So, the OP has probably already moved on, but just thought it was worth mentioning that hotronics also makes extension cords that will allow batteries to be placed in pants pockets. To me, the ideal set-up would be to run the wires inside the pants through an "improvised" opening to the pocket, cargo or otherwise, or just spring for some Intuition liners, and molding, and never look back.

 

+infinity on boot dryers over pulling liners.

post #33 of 57
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Originally Posted by cantunamunch View Post
 

 

well, that makes sense, especially if there's moisture between liner and shell.


or if you have sweaty feet

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The outside of my liners doesn't transport water.  It's a pleather and closed cell foam thing.     About the only way for sweat to get out there is through the seam stitching and even I don't schwitz that much.

A few years ago I had some translucent shells and I could see frost inside my shell, especially at the end of a cold day.  Now that I pull the liners regularly, sometimes shortly after skiing, I can scrape frost off the inside of the toe box and can feel moisture.  My liners then, and now, are the originals.  I've also found frost inside my Scarpa Maestrale boots, which have an intuition liner. 

 

I sweat too much:eek  and perhaps getting some moisture in from outside.

post #34 of 57
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or if you have sweaty feet

A few years ago I had some translucent shells and I could see frost inside my shell, especially at the end of a cold day.  Now that I pull the liners regularly, sometimes shortly after skiing, I can scrape frost off the inside of the toe box and can feel moisture.  My liners then, and now, are the originals.  I've also found frost inside my Scarpa Maestrale boots, which have an intuition liner. 

 

I sweat too much:eek  and perhaps getting some moisture in from outside.

^Maybe. I used to get a ton of water inside my Langes, especially in the Spring. Duct tape over the toe helped, but there was really no substitute for pulling the liners, which was a drag because I had so much foam padding cobbled together with duct tape to offset the liners packing out after 25 days.

 

Moisture seems to be less of an issue since I switched to Dalbello Kryptons/KR 2, but they can still get damp after a day of Spring corn. The good news is; I haven't had to do any modifications to the intuitions, so less worried about things coming apart when pulling/re-inserting the liners. I still might buy another snapdry to replace mine that died 3-4 seasons back. The new ones have a timer to shut them off automatically after a few hours, which probably would have extended the life of my old one by several seasons. Don't know how many times I spaced it, and left that thing running for days at a time, but it used to happen pretty often IIRC. The timer addition was long overdue IMO.

 

Even if your feet aren't freezing, I can't imagine it's too reassuring to see frost inside your boots. Used to make me chuckle to literally pour water out of my shells after an afternoon of skiing bumps at 75F on Superstar at K-mart. If I'd been running hotronics then, I'd probably have gotten electrocuted!

post #35 of 57
Since we're sharing -

I have Hotronics because my feet are always cold.

One of the things that helps greatly, is at lunch time, I put those little orange things in my boots and plug them into an available outlet in the lodge. I also put my regular socks on over my sock liners and my regular boots on. This gets me back to having nice dry warm feet and when I put my boots back on, they are nice and warm.

If it has been crazy cold and I've had the Hotronics on 3 all morning, I'll recharge the batteries too.

I looked at getting the extension chord but realized when in a race suit, it wasn't going to work.
Edited by L&AirC - 12/20/14 at 3:45pm
post #36 of 57

I use Intuition Powerwraps with my Hotronics and will add a boot glove on the coldest days.  I almost always run the Hotronics on 1, sometimes on 2, almost never on 3.  I have had problems with freezing hands and feet.  I don't anymore.  I ski almost everyday, all day, for the  whole season and see all kinds of weather.  It is not acceptable for me to have to go inside or be unable to focus on the guests because I am cold.  I've learned how to stay warm, or at least how to not get cold.

 

IME if you can feel that the Hotronic is on, it is set too high and your feet will sweat.  You want your feet to feel neutral, not toasty warm.

post #37 of 57
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I use Intuition Powerwraps with my Hotronics and will add a boot glove on the coldest days.  I almost always run the Hotronics on 1, sometimes on 2, almost never on 3.  I have had problems with freezing hands and feet.  I don't anymore.  I ski almost everyday, all day, for the  whole season and see all kinds of weather.  It is not acceptable for me to have to go inside or be unable to focus on the guests because I am cold.  I've learned how to stay warm, or at least how to not get cold.

 

IME if you can feel that the Hotronic is on, it is set too high and your feet will sweat.  You want your feet to feel neutral, not toasty warm.

 

 I'm in the same boat though I'm more of a weekend warrior.  Good point about the heat setting and I agree.  The goal with the Hotronics is to not notice it.

 

I do at times add the boot glove but you need to make sure snow isn't getting trapped under it.

 

I have put so much effort into staying warm, that one of the (female) coaches calls me Princess.  I wear that crown with pride.

post #38 of 57
My four pair of hotronics have held up well. They are light weight and electronic so you need to be careful but with care they will last for years. My advice is if you like to ski and have had to stop skiing because your feet are cold you should buy boot heaters. It only costs two days lift tickets and will add endless hours of pleasure to your ski season.
post #39 of 57
The four pair were for four different family members redface.gif
post #40 of 57
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 I'm in the same boat though I'm more of a weekend warrior.  Good point about the heat setting and I agree.  The goal with the Hotronics is to not notice it.

 

I do at times add the boot glove but you need to make sure snow isn't getting trapped under it.

 

I have put so much effort into staying warm, that one of the (female) coaches calls me Princess.  I wear that crown with pride.

 

I don't think it matters if snow gets under there.  Snow is a great insulator.

post #41 of 57

Funny, I had hotronics for years, and they worked great, when they worked. At least I know I can go back to them if the intuitions are no longer cutting it, but I can't say I miss fiddling with chargers, batteries, wires, attachments, and heater element malfunctions, although the net benefit was worth it. Now I just mess with the wiring on my helmet audio...

 

Bootgloves seem like they would be a much more hassle-free solution, but then how would I be able to fiddle with my buckles before/after every run? I know I'm OCD about buckle tension, but loosening the lower and instep buckles definitely improves comfort and circulation between runs. Maybe if I just strike a balance between vice-grip precision, and bedroom slipper comfort, I'd have happier feet, and wear out buckles less? 

 

Meh, crazy talk. I can't imagine forfeiting that sense of accomplishment at the end of a ski day when all my gadgets have functioned as advertised. 

post #42 of 57
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I have put so much effort into staying warm, that one of the (female) coaches calls me Princess.  I wear that crown with pride.

 

I resemble that remark. And not just about saying warm. I'm kind of a high-maintenance person, physically speaking, so the only way I can really focus on skiing instead of on my many "issues" is to have a bunch of elaborate rituals that let me do that. (11:00pm the night before a ski day. Lights out. In bed. Dozing off. Me to Ms. Q, suddenly alert: "Crap. I forgot to put antiperspirant on my feet!" Ms. Q to me, with long-suffering patience: "I don't know how you lived this long. I really don't.") It's why I know I'll be hiking and biking longer than I'm skiing - it's just too much work to do all the maintenance. 

post #43 of 57
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 I can't imagine forfeiting that sense of accomplishment at the end of a ski day when all my gadgets have functioned as advertised. 

 

Brilliant. Way too close to home.

post #44 of 57
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Brilliant. Way too close to home.

 

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I resemble that remark. And not just about saying warm. I'm kind of a high-maintenance person, physically speaking, so the only way I can really focus on skiing instead of on my many "issues" is to have a bunch of elaborate rituals that let me do that. (11:00pm the night before a ski day. Lights out. In bed. Dozing off. Me to Ms. Q, suddenly alert: "Crap. I forgot to put antiperspirant on my feet!" Ms. Q to me, with long-suffering patience: "I don't know how you lived this long. I really don't.") It's why I know I'll be hiking and biking longer than I'm skiing - it's just too much work to do all the maintenance. 


You people are nuts. I just have to make sure my phone is charged the night before and I'm good to go. Oh yea, and plug in Hotgear boot bag so I can get my boots on. Oh, and plug in my Uclear Bluetooth for my helmet. Almost forgot, the Hotronics need to be charged. As long as there are fresh batteries  in the Turbo Fan goggles, I think that's all.  Yea, like I said, you people are nuts.:eek

post #45 of 57
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I resemble that remark. And not just about saying warm. I'm kind of a high-maintenance person, physically speaking, so the only way I can really focus on skiing instead of on my many "issues" is to have a bunch of elaborate rituals that let me do that. (11:00pm the night before a ski day. Lights out. In bed. Dozing off. Me to Ms. Q, suddenly alert: "Crap. I forgot to put antiperspirant on my feet!" Ms. Q to me, with long-suffering patience: "I don't know how you lived this long. I really don't.") It's why I know I'll be hiking and biking longer than I'm skiing - it's just too much work to do all the maintenance. 

 

You have no idea!  Let alone what I go through to get my gear ready for skiing, you should see what I go through for a good nights sleep!  My wife always says "It must be very stressful to be you."

 

This and RatherPlayThanWork's post has given me an idea for another thread ;) 


Edited by L&AirC - 10/25/14 at 7:23am
post #46 of 57

I guess "maybe" I'm lucky.  Going skiing for me is a lot like getting up on an average day and going to work.  ;) 

post #47 of 57
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Originally Posted by qcanoe View Post

 

I resemble that remark. And not just about saying warm. I'm kind of a high-maintenance person, physically speaking, so the only way I can really focus on skiing instead of on my many "issues" is to have a bunch of elaborate rituals that let me do that. (11:00pm the night before a ski day. Lights out. In bed. Dozing off. Me to Ms. Q, suddenly alert: "Crap. I forgot to put antiperspirant on my feet!" Ms. Q to me, with long-suffering patience: "I don't know how you lived this long. I really don't.") It's why I know I'll be hiking and biking longer than I'm skiing - it's just too much work to do all the maintenance. 

 

Q, you is got to learn how to let go. The world will not come to a end just because you forgot something.

I used to be like you until senility set in. The up side is that I don't remember I have things to remember. Quite a load off my mind.

 

As TPJ said - just another avg day at the playground. Let kids be kids. 

post #48 of 57

I Have hotronics, love them. comfortable feet make a world of difference, especially waiting for chair to open or standing in long lift line. I installed extension cables and put the clip on my pants belt, works good so far

post #49 of 57
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You people are nuts. I just have to make sure my phone is charged the night before and I'm good to go. Oh yea, and plug in Hotgear boot bag so I can get my boots on. Oh, and plug in my Uclear Bluetooth for my helmet. Almost forgot, the Hotronics need to be charged. As long as there are fresh batteries  in the Turbo Fan goggles, I think that's all.  Yea, like I said, you people are nuts.:eek

Man, I love my Turbo Fan goggles. I finally got smart.

 

:)

post #50 of 57
Thread Starter 

Thanks everyone for your advice on the Hotronics, just bought them and got them installed in the boots at my local ski shop, they look and feel great! 

post #51 of 57

Has anyone tried the warmers from Sidas?  http://www.sidassport.com/en/our-products/winter-sports-16-2.html

 

I'm looking for a warmer this year, or possibly intuition liners.

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post #53 of 57

If you're not doing gates, try mounting them on the front strap w/ clips (in front of boot tongue). This method for over 10 yrs no issues. But w/ new boots have to insist at shop as they like to do side mount for some reason. Front mount very simple and easy as they get banged around on the sides and back of the boot. Nothing ever hits the front of my boot........... okay unless skiing through thick woods w/ shrubs. I use boot dryer every day after skiing, only remove liner 1x per month or if end up in deep water. Currently have 3 sets of Hotronics, the old round Pwr Plus (lightweight good for Tele, but 24 hr chg), M4's (work great) and E'4's (higher heat output than M4). All in perfect working condition and used 60+ days per year.

post #54 of 57

Make sure the powder cuff on your ski pants will fit over the battery pack.  My wife has big time troubles with that and I have to do it for her and it's a pretty big PITA to be honest.   Have to take my gloves off and everything and it's a tight fit.

post #55 of 57
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Make sure the powder cuff on your ski pants will fit over the battery pack.  My wife has big time troubles with that and I have to do it for her and it's a pretty big PITA to be honest.   Have to take my gloves off and everything and it's a tight fit.


What ^^ he said.......... be sure to buy pants w/ a large enough cuff and make sure your current cuffs fit over the set up or you will be VERY unhappy as they will pull on your pants all day long = very annoying.

post #56 of 57
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Has anyone tried the warmers from Sidas?  http://www.sidassport.com/en/our-products/winter-sports-16-2.html

I'm looking for a warmer this year, or possibly intuition liners.
I've got the same question. That's what my bootfitter uses, and I think the price is about the same as Hotronics.

So, Sidas heaters--love 'em? Hate 'em? Never heard of 'em?wink.gif
post #57 of 57

I bought my wife Hotronic cable extensions. she wears her batteries at the small of her back. she runs the wires down her ski pants. Batteries stay warmer under her coat and she swears they last longer.doesn't have to worry about batteries  on her boots  getting wacked getting on or off a lift.also search this forum for instructions on how to rebuild the battery packs ,it is cheaper than buying new batteries 

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